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So I wonder about having a disclaimer: I will ignore all PMs from "wannabe translators" if the English of the PM is poor enough to sound like it was machine translated. :>

So I've been keeping an eye on the Claimed Bounties section lately and a certain one has caught my attention for a while now. This is the bounty in question. Just yesterday it was still under the Claimed section and was pending approval but today it was already gone.
There are two scenarios that could have led to this: 1) The bounty poster approved the claim. 2) The claim has been forced by the bounty hunter. Now, I'd normally give the benefit of the doubt to the hunter and considering his clever choice of words, "will scan soon," this seemed like the obvious thing to do. So the seven days are up and there's still no sign of the bounty poster, which leads me to believe that the claim has been forced by the bounty hunter. However, this is not enough to prove anything so I decided to search for it. There are no signs of the doujin being posted to the galleries and it's also not listed in any of his uploads.

I don't really want to accuse him of anything, but it's pretty hard not to put 1 + 1 together. Of course, there's also the possibility that he plans to upload it later and if that's the case then I apologize in advance. But if that's the intention then I really question the motive for claiming it so early. Why not just send a PM to the poster to reserve the bounty and claim it once you have it scanned? Something about all this smells pretty fishy and it's not my rotting goldfish either. I'd like to believe this was an honest mistake but unfortunately the evidence says otherwise.


@Tenboro
It's pretty apparent that the current bounty system is still flawed in many ways. You should probably at least implement the suggestion I made a while ago or a variant of it:

You bring up a good point. If logic applies to the bounty system then it should be required to be reviewed by a bounty moderator before the force acceptance gets approved. Similar to how a bounty moderator needs to review a dispute before rejecting it, that should also apply here. Instead of automatically awarding the hunter after he/she makes a force acceptance when the seven days are over, it'd be best to get a moderator to look at it first. Then again, I'm making a big assumption that logic is being applied here so I could be wrong.

In light of this, I suggest that bounty posters should also put in some effort when responding to a claim. We are always heckling hunters that accept bounties with no comments but what about posters? This is beneficial in that it shows you care about the bounty and also makes the distinction that a human has accepted it, rather than being force accepted by the hunter. I added this:

5. Don't be lazy. Put a little bit of effort to show that you actually care about the bounty. Writing a simple comment or even a smiley would suffice when accepting claims.

as the fifth rule in the guidelines under the bounty poster section. Let me know what you all think.

I can agree with that. I had a forced claim once (due to no internet for like 10 days) and the guy who claimed it did a shitty job that I would've disputed if given the chance. There should be some control by a moderator if a forced claim happens so they can step in and see what's going on and take any action if it's fishy. Also (if nothing else), i'd suggest having a reminder PM sent to the poster letting them know the 7 days are almost up (like with disputes and expiring bounties).

This post has been edited by Super Shanko: Jan 5 2012, 06:21

That bounty was second on the Top 10 list, look at the contributions. If this doesn't call for mod action, nothing does.

Edit: Also, I feel that as a contributor to this bounty I should have been warned that it's about to be forced, to allow me to assess the situation, and possibly withdraw my contribution.

This post has been edited by Dlaglacz: Jan 5 2012, 13:00

Wow o.0! This is a big case!

From the bounty:
Comments from Bounty Poster:
(No comment was given.)

So there is a high chance that the hunter forced this one.
From a bounty this big, the poster should at least say thanks, right?

But I really want to think it's because he pm-ed the archive and the poster didn't have time to upload.
(The poster left the comment blank because he's too...shy)

If it's not the case then....all those contributions....go to waste o.0

It was forced, yes. But alerting contributors would be pointless, since you can't withdraw a contribution after a bounty is claimed.

I am however going to make some changes to how expired claims are handled, since this isn't the first time it's happened.

Cool~ our mod took care of it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

An update:

You can no longer force accepts in the bounty system. Expired bounties will eventually be decided by a moderator. (Or PM me to look at it.)

And the bounty goes back to it's state. http://ehentaihip.com/bounty.php?bid=2431
Now we can just wait for the poster (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

You can no longer force accepts in the bounty system. Expired bounties will eventually be decided by a moderator. (Or PM me to look at it.)

I approve. The bounty system is finally starting to make sense. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Fixing the occasional troll problem is nice. Now, if we could only have some more functionality to address the issues of regulars who use it all the time... )

This post has been edited by Red_Piotrus: Jan 6 2012, 21:37

i dont claim anything but these actually suspicious to me

2012-01-06 10:55 Claim Pending EniGma` Unranked
currently translating this one.

just want to clarify, this is the manga​you want
to ​get translated : http://ehentaihip.com/g/51575/521b2e23bd/

2012-01-07 12:12 Claim Disputed RaLz- Rank C
Translating...

just want to clarify, this is the doujun you want​
to get translated : http://ehentaihip.com/g/406791/c7472a5c17/

its look to me weird,i just want to say that

Question: Given the current bounty system, do people generally put editing bounties under Standard or Translation?

It's 50/50, but they always put edit in the title.

Question: Given the current bounty system, do people generally put editing bounties under Standard or Translation?

They are supposed to be put under Standard, as Translations are only for translations (doh!).

Do bounties expire after a certain period of inactivity? I accepted a translation bounty from someone and sent him the script already, but it's been almost a week and no reply.

I've done bounties for him in the past, so I think he just hasn't been online in a while. Any advice on what I should do? I would like to claim the bounty at some point.

Do bounties expire after a certain period of inactivity? I accepted a translation bounty from someone and sent him the script already, but it's been almost a week and no reply.

I've done bounties for him in the past, so I think he just hasn't been online in a while. Any advice on what I should do? I would like to claim the bounty at some point.

If they don't get bumped by the owner, they get a notice of it expiring. After that it just get auto canceled. You can try sending them a direct email.

When a bounty is about to expire, the bounty poster will get PMs warning about it expiring. The warning is sent 3 times, once for each of the last 3 days prior to expiration.

If the bounty is in danger of expiring and you haven't been able to get ahold of the bounty poster, you can post a small reward (500 credits, the minimum required, is enough) to it to reset its expiration limitation. All bounties will expire after 30 days of no new reward, unless new reward is added.

You won't lose much with only 500 credits, and you get to buy yourself and the bounty poster another 30 days. And when the poster comes back and approves your work, he'll approve your claim, and that 500c you paid to keep the bounty alive will be returned to you as part of the reward itself. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This post has been edited by lightshader: Mar 28 2012, 04:46

Claimed bounties never expire, just FYI.

Claimed bounties never expire, just FYI.

Problem is that I don't know if I should claim it or not. The guy doesn't look like he's been online for several days. He's had the script though for over a week. Doesn't it say that after 7 days of it being claimed that the moderator will determine the outcome?

This post has been edited by qaqtusman: Mar 29 2012, 06:00

Well, when you claim it, the poster has 7 days to dispute it.

But anyway, then if you claim and 7 days passes without the poster giving any sign of life, the moderator will determine the outcome and you will get the credits, since you have the script. Then, on the day the poster come back, he will see it, and no problem. Right?