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post Apr 29 2022, 05:03
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It's right that the site can limit the amount of spam scans that hits the site, but it was wrong that the perpetrator had to make the owners actually think about taking action against their trolling. At least, we only have to worry about not mentioning Irodori on certain galleries. That's the only evil left that plagues this site that can't be dealt with properly by the owners...


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post Apr 29 2022, 05:07
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Some of the earlier stuff threw me when looking through the galleries since I didn't know what to do with it, so in the end I ignored them.

"Well, the text is see through... does it count?"

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post Apr 29 2022, 06:47
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QUOTE(sakuraso614 @ Apr 29 2022, 00:49) *
I still insist this one should be expunged.
http://ehentaihip.com/g/1675717/a6ed57fd27/

Leaving aside the scanmark, the images are tiny and barely readable (700px in height).
They are intentionally degraded instead of being a low-res scan.
Even those old doujinantena stuff were at least 1000px in height. Those could be called low-res scans, but such 700px trash, NO.
If they are newer uploads then they should be killed, but I honestly don't think it is to the point where it absolutely needs to be expunged.

Similarly, I find these galleries, as older scans, should be acceptable:
- http://ehentaihip.com/g/1675695/f8693c36b3/
- http://ehentaihip.com/g/1675696/f294ab210b/
- http://ehentaihip.com/g/1675725/6aabfd5d28/
- http://ehentaihip.com/g/1675723/7112a95613/
- http://ehentaihip.com/g/1675721/c3c3c5c372/
- http://ehentaihip.com/g/1675693/95a9502b74/
- http://ehentaihip.com/g/1675718/40cad7983d/

They are not really "ineligible" enough to the point that I can't even make out (most) of the words. These are just more of a "quality control" expunge, rather than "defaced".

Of course, since we are not going to waste our time playing a cat and mouse shit with this uploader, as new uploads they can be killed.


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post Apr 29 2022, 07:04
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post Apr 29 2022, 07:49
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QUOTE(PrincessKaguya @ Apr 29 2022, 12:47) *

They are not really "ineligible" enough to the point that I can't even make out (most) of the words. These are just more of a "quality control" expunge, rather than "defaced".

Of course, since we are not going to waste our time playing a cat and mouse shit with this uploader, as new uploads they can be killed.


Okay, if you say so.
I'll cancel my petition on the gallery in question.

I feel glad that most of the shit spam is already cleaned up and there won't be more.


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post Apr 29 2022, 08:48
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QUOTE(sakuraso614 @ Apr 29 2022, 04:49) *
Okay, if you say so.
I'll cancel my petition on the gallery in question.

I feel glad that most of the shit spam is already cleaned up and there won't be more.
I will check again with the administration anyway, seeing that he is the ultimate authority on this matter, so might as well use this opportunity to align with his standards more closely.


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post Apr 29 2022, 10:05
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Finally, I was so happy seeing this on the news page earlier.

I mainly access the site through mobile apps instead of trying to use the desktop site on my phone.
But the problem is that all the ones I ever used never had Excluded Uploaders implemented.
And with how much I use the site I'd regularly end up online during cgc's upload streaks.
It was always so miserable trying to just browse the main page while scrolling through all the "Low Quality" scans five at a time (that fit on my screen at once with what I'm currently using TachiyomiSY) that I just stopped bothering to try on my phone.

Learning that I can actually use the front page comfortably on mobile now is so freeing.
That I can browse the site when, where, and however I want without needing to fear seeing walls of "Low Quality" spam that make that impossible.

It's was so insanely satisfying to remove cgc as the only entry in my Excluded Uploaders list just to see the last little attempt to keep spamming the site with "Samples".
I can only wonder where they'll go off to plague instead, but thankfully it won't be here anymore.

QUOTE(B4z73rd @ Apr 28 2022, 19:03) *

It's right that the site can limit the amount of spam scans that hits the site, but it was wrong that the perpetrator had to make the owners actually think about taking action against their trolling. At least, we only have to worry about not mentioning Irodori on certain galleries. That's the only evil left that plagues this site that can't be dealt with properly by the owners...

Was there a case where the copyright holder was considering action specifically because of cgc defacing their stuff where they wouldn't have otherwise?
I didn't really keep up with this at all until now, so is a surprise to me that there was any public discussion on finally dealing with this.
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post Apr 29 2022, 10:20
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Should uploaders who post advertising galleries be banned? If we just keep expunging galleries without banning those uploaders, they will just post more.


example : *censored*

He posted 5 galleries related to child pornography ads in three hours.

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post Apr 29 2022, 10:28
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QUOTE(-Kipaliye @ Apr 29 2022, 07:20) *
Should uploaders who post advertising galleries be banned? If we just keep expunging galleries without banning those uploaders, they will just post more.
example : *censored*

He posted 5 galleries related to child pornography ads in three hours.
Locked all relevant galleries.

Also, wrong thread, report these people here next time (these we will ban):
- /index.php?showtopic=245823


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post Apr 29 2022, 11:44
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QUOTE(PrincessKaguya @ Apr 29 2022, 05:48) *
I will check again with the administration anyway, seeing that he is the ultimate authority on this matter, so might as well use this opportunity to align with his standards more closely.
Ran some cross-checking with the administration.

Rulings:
> These are NOT expungeable:
- http://ehentaihip.com/g/1675715/7d758fffc9/
- http://ehentaihip.com/g/1675691/5f33098efe/
- http://ehentaihip.com/g/1675692/2e85b37a33/
- http://ehentaihip.com/g/1675711/62f6d9ede6/
- http://ehentaihip.com/g/1675716/c422f32d4f/

> These can be expunged:
- http://ehentaihip.com/g/1675717/a6ed57fd27/
- http://ehentaihip.com/g/1675718/40cad7983d/
- http://ehentaihip.com/g/1675696/f294ab210b/
- http://ehentaihip.com/g/1675725/6aabfd5d28/
- http://ehentaihip.com/g/1675695/f8693c36b3/
- http://ehentaihip.com/g/1675723/7112a95613/
- http://ehentaihip.com/g/1675721/c3c3c5c372/
- http://ehentaihip.com/g/1675693/95a9502b74/

If this helps to clarify the expunge standards, note that it is the combination of "being a bad scan" + "obscuring core content" + "uploader's intent" that made the last eight galleries expungeable.

I have removed 1675717 from the reference list. Some valid examples are added to the list as well.


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post Apr 29 2022, 14:50
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QUOTE(Kurogal @ Apr 29 2022, 04:05) *

Finally, I was so happy seeing this on the news page earlier.

I mainly access the site through mobile apps instead of trying to use the desktop site on my phone.
But the problem is that all the ones I ever used never had Excluded Uploaders implemented.
And with how much I use the site I'd regularly end up online during cgc's upload streaks.
It was always so miserable trying to just browse the main page while scrolling through all the "Low Quality" scans five at a time (that fit on my screen at once with what I'm currently using TachiyomiSY) that I just stopped bothering to try on my phone.

First world problems


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post Apr 29 2022, 15:03
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QUOTE(PrincessKaguya @ Apr 29 2022, 18:44) *

We should preserve this for posterity.

Also the lols.

romanicyte is correct.

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post Apr 29 2022, 16:16
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QUOTE(PrincessKaguya @ Apr 28 2022, 06:21) *

That should not be an option because we will have to DX those "dd dolls" ads spam, like this one:


Dang thats more annoying than I thought. If they had half a brain they would have a separate end image and say the upload was sponsored by them.

Spammers don't have brains though.


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post Apr 30 2022, 03:32
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QUOTE(PrincessKaguya @ Apr 29 2022, 17:44) *

Ran some cross-checking with the administration.

Rulings:
> These are NOT expungeable:
- http://ehentaihip.com/g/1675715/7d758fffc9/
- http://ehentaihip.com/g/1675691/5f33098efe/
- http://ehentaihip.com/g/1675692/2e85b37a33/
- http://ehentaihip.com/g/1675711/62f6d9ede6/
- http://ehentaihip.com/g/1675716/c422f32d4f/

> These can be expunged:
- http://ehentaihip.com/g/1675717/a6ed57fd27/
- http://ehentaihip.com/g/1675718/40cad7983d/
- http://ehentaihip.com/g/1675696/f294ab210b/
- http://ehentaihip.com/g/1675725/6aabfd5d28/
- http://ehentaihip.com/g/1675695/f8693c36b3/
- http://ehentaihip.com/g/1675723/7112a95613/
- http://ehentaihip.com/g/1675721/c3c3c5c372/
- http://ehentaihip.com/g/1675693/95a9502b74/

If this helps to clarify the expunge standards, note that it is the combination of "being a bad scan" + "obscuring core content" + "uploader's intent" that made the last eight galleries expungeable.

I have removed 1675717 from the reference list. Some valid examples are added to the list as well.


Thanks for the clarification.


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post Apr 30 2022, 04:19
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QUOTE(romanicyte @ Apr 29 2022, 04:50) *

First world problems

But of course, who wouldn't want to achieve maximum first world comf?
Especially when an improvement towards it just comes to them without any prior effort on their part like this news did for me.
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post Apr 30 2022, 04:30
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In light of the now 8,000+ expunged defaced galleries, this little bit of irony:

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post May 1 2022, 18:46
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Apr 29 2022, 16:16) *

Dang thats more annoying than I thought. If they had half a brain they would have a separate end image and say the upload was sponsored by them.

Spammers don't have brains though.

Oh they have brains, just not a moral standard or any conscience
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post May 3 2022, 10:18
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In light of the now 8,000+ expunged defaced galleries, this little bit of irony:



cgc is actually active in renaming galleries, his toplist points are probably from his efforts there.


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post May 3 2022, 22:39
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Personally, I would bring up the stance of preservation: that is, while many of these "defaced" galleries offer low quality content, they are still of value, especially when there are no replacements for them. Some of the galleries are for publications sold years ago, and would remain to be difficult to find copies to scan. It is unfortunate that the only copies uploaded are low-quality, but simply bringing the content online has its value to begin with.

So all in all I support expunging better than deletion, such that at least one digital source is available. Perhaps the community can muster some incentives on re-scaning these galleries to provide a better alternative? That I do not know.
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post May 3 2022, 23:01
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QUOTE(UlyssesASL @ May 3 2022, 16:39) *

Personally, I would bring up the stance of preservation: that is, while many of these "defaced" galleries offer low quality content, they are still of value, especially when there are no replacements for them. Some of the galleries are for publications sold years ago, and would remain to be difficult to find copies to scan. It is unfortunate that the only copies uploaded are low-quality, but simply bringing the content online has its value to begin with.

So all in all I support expunging better than deletion, such that at least one digital source is available. Perhaps the community can muster some incentives on re-scaning these galleries to provide a better alternative? That I do not know.

That is exactly what we did, we expunged, not deleted them.


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