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- The number of rounds in the Tower has been rescaled and now caps at 100 for Floor 40. Past Floor 40, the difficulty boost (monster health/damage) is now scaled up by 5% per floor.

What the...I was hoping the Tower would at least be less grindy this season, but past Floor 40 it seems both far more difficult and more grindy than last season.

Every Floor is increasing the difficulty by PFUDOR +5! Last season, even though the rounds continued to increase, the difficulty only increased by PFUDOR +1 every several Floors.

This is insane. From what I understand, each added difficulty to PFUDOR increases monster damage and HP by 5% each. So every Floor is now increasing monster damage and HP by 25% this season!?

What the...I was hoping the Tower would at least be less grindy this season, but past Floor 40 it seems both far more difficult and more grindy than last season.

Every Floor is increasing the difficulty by PFUDOR +5! Last season, even though the rounds continued to increase, the difficulty only increased by PFUDOR +1 every several Floors.

This is insane. From what I understand, each added difficulty to PFUDOR increases monster damage and HP by 5% each. So every Floor is now increasing monster damage and HP by 25% this season!?

You're supposed to hit a wall eventually. But seeing as several people are hovering around floor {number of days since Isekai started} it might not be working as well as I would like.

That's PFUDOR +5% (5% monster HP and damage), not like the old Tower PFUDOR +levels.

Wait, Nezu says that the PFUDOR +X language does not denote the same thing as last season's. If that is how it is, then it should be doable for me. Floor 41 sure felt hard though compared to Floor 40.

Wait, Nezu says that the PFUDOR +X language does not denote the same thing as last season's. If that is how it is, then it should be doable for me. Floor 41 sure felt hard though compared to Floor 40.

Oh, yeah, it's not like in the first season. It's just a percentage modifier to monster damage and (non-schoolgirl) HP.

What the...I was hoping the Tower would at least be less grindy this season, but past Floor 40 it seems both far more difficult and more grindy than last season.

Every Floor is increasing the difficulty by PFUDOR +5! Last season, even though the rounds continued to increase, the difficulty only increased by PFUDOR +1 every several Floors.

This is insane. From what I understand, each added difficulty to PFUDOR increases monster damage and HP by 5% each. So every Floor is now increasing monster damage and HP by 25% this season!?

It was PFUDOR +5*X for level 10*(40+X) monsters at floor 40+X. Which means 1+0.05*X to monsters damage and health modifier. (Also, the damage during the tower takes the IW's modifier as rounds increasing.)

Also, monsters' level influence all the basic attribute, which indicates higher damage, healthm PMI/MMI, and your prof depend on monsters level. For example, a gaint's health might raised from 150k at floor 40 to 9m at floor 205.

This still seems about as grindy as last season, while being significantly more difficult. So nothing got easier for us. It took me almost 2 hours to clear Floor 44. I'm so tired I don't know if I can reach Floor 50 in time bleeah...

Maybe the monster damage should increase more than the monster health.

You're supposed to hit a wall eventually. But seeing as several people are hovering around floor {number of days since Isekai started} it might not be working as well as I would like.

Maybe increasing the length of the season to a full year would provide enough time for even the most hardcore isekai players to get stuck (or double the number of tower runs allowed per day).

A year season would give casual isekai players more time to reach Floor 50. I feel too much time pressure to reach Floor 50 twice a year, especially during the busy winter holidays.

Some people just like to really get into these things, so what most people are not going to bother doing, because it's too time consuming (floor 41+, heck even floor 31+), others will just spend the hours upon hours in the later floors.

It'd probably be better to not even have a soft "wall", but a hard wall. Aka, a point where you just clear the tower and you can repeat the final floor, if you want.
HVerse isn't really complex enough to do more, than what the tower already does, unless we'd want to go into gimmicks. For example "floor 1-30 is free for all, but floor 31-35 requires heavy armor, floor 36-40 light armor, 41-45 cloth armor" and such things. Though I'm pretty sure the high tower levels are basically only possible with 1h, though I could be wrong.

One thing the tower could change to is, that the rounds and amount of enemies get A LOT less, but in exchange the strength increases A LOT. On top of that consumables would be strengthened in there. For example hp + damage x5 for enemies, but also scrolls that do 5x what they do right now. (i.e. scroll of protection would be 90% damage cut, shadow veil scroll would be 86% evasion) Perhaps flower vase and bubble gum could last the entire tower floor and maybe have double their power increase.
Might need restriction on trading these consumables, as having them or not would basically be the wall. Though in a much more time consuming way, it is already the wall today.

Isekai is a nice idea, but to me it's a bit too time consuming for what it offers. Tower floor rewards are also kinda eh. Like the final tower round doesn't even count as a final arena round with drop chance increases (okay, I could be SUPER unlucky I guess), and in general the rewards feel very lackluster. The lack of RE also means, relatively good gear is hard and very time consuming to get. So in the end most get by with lackluster 1h equip and the resulting slow speed, until they lose interest.
Maybe it would make Isekai more interesting, when the typical normal random encounter you fight would also give you a separate drop table for Isekai. Just obviously not the exp, and on the Isekai level.

I'm probably going to "soft-cap" the tower stuff to top-20-or-floor-100, in the sense that if you make it to floor 100 you get all the rewards, and going past it will be for bragging rights only. While I am planning on limiting consumables again at some point, which would also "fix" it, that has several dependencies and won't happen any time soon.

This still seems about as grindy as last season, while being significantly more difficult. So nothing got easier for us. It took me almost 2 hours to clear Floor 44. I'm so tired I don't know if I can reach Floor 50 in time bleeah...

Maybe the monster damage should increase more than the monster health.
Maybe increasing the length of the season to a full year would provide enough time for even the most hardcore isekai players to get stuck (or double the number of tower runs allowed per day).

A year season would give casual isekai players more time to reach Floor 50. I feel too much time pressure to reach Floor 50 twice a year, especially during the busy winter holidays.

does it have anything to do with your connection? Because I could clear floor 50 within one hour. And floor 60 in 1 hour 15 min. or so. DW style, with pretty decent weapons - but they weren't crazy expensive, and I earned more than I spent.

My connection is a factor. Just like before, I have about half as many turns/second as most players. (My bandwidth has even gone down due to using a much slower ISP that costs more than my previous ISP. All our local ISPs were bought out and we are getting crunched here by duopoly service providers). The other factor might be my level. I'm near level 300, similar to last season.

But all that doesn't matter, and it's nothing to complain about.

The relevant thing is that my clear time is almost the same this season as last season, so the changed Tower didn't actually get less grindy. The Tower got more difficult to survive as expected, but we didn't get more reasonable clear times in exchange.

I guess what hurts even more is that the 100-round cap which was supposed to result in a less grindy Tower even affected arenas and messed up the whole game in a way that many players did not like. (Shorter arenas and less arenas. Unwanted and annoying stamina changes. Worse balance for spirit points, which are now useless in the main game, due to too much excess spirit). So from my perspective, isekai season 2 was just a lot of things making the game worse, piled on each other.

(I have no criticism of isekai season 1).

when does this season end? still floor 39

when does this season end? still floor 39 :cry:

It ends on the Winter solstice according to the Wiki. This year it is on the 21st.

It ends on the Winter solstice according to the Wiki. This year it is on the 21st.

Just wonder what's new about the next season

Just wonder what's new about the next season

I have my suspicions on one particular change that may come. For the rest there are probably a lot of plans and ideas, and too little time to implement them all. We'll get something for sure, but I can't imagine that it'll be a mayor overhaul

when does this season end? still floor 39

If you aren't at least level 350, I recommend just stopping at Floor 40.

I'm around level 300~310 and this is a horrible experience. Clearing Floor 47 took me 4 hours. Aside from being more difficult than last season (which was expected, and not necessarily a bad thing) the grind time alone is now surpassing last season's Tower (which is the opposite of what was supposed to happen).

I'm also hemorrhaging 100,000 to 1,000,000 credits just buying potions and elixirs. This is awful.

I feel like isekai season 2 ruined the whole game, and this includes persistent. Maybe the PAB bonuses should be removed. Then I could just ignore isekai (although that still wouldn't excuse the ruining invasion of isekai in terms of persistent's arena and stamina changes). The much bigger, one season damage bonuses are fine because I can ignore isekai without penalty while I don't have time, and play it when I do.

What are you playing as?
I cleared 50 at 330 this season, as dw, in ~1h, without enough discomfort to call it a horrible experience. As 1h, should be even easier. It's only really 310 you want, there's barely any difference from level after that.

Would be nice if faster imperil unlocked a bit quicker, there's a dull zone in the mid 200's to 310 where its grindy because of cooldown 2 target imperil, and enemies are tough enough without being imperilled that you just crawl to a halt. So you have a choice of awkwardly casting imperil with the 1 turn cooldown and only 2 targets, which really slows you down in real time, or just bruit force it without, which slows you down in turns. The games more fun early level mostly because of that, easy to burn out in the mid 200's.

This season, I am standard 1H Heavy, as opposed to last season's 1H Light (which I theorized would be better to climb the Tower almost infinitely in theory; which became unnecessary after the PAB bonuses became fixed to Floor 50 as opposed to top rankings).

My gear is roughly the same quality this season as last season, maybe a bit worse (mag ethereal rapier of balance, mag force shield, a lot of exquisite plate, one legendary rubber power panties). My plan was that if I couldn't get good gear, I would give up and quit isekai and aim only for Floor 30 or 40.

Since I did suffer from stagnation and a severe lack of gear, I did quit playing isekai until last spurt, when I was able to thankfully acquire some better gear from other players and lucky self drops.

My plan was that if I couldn't get good gear, I would give up and quit isekai and aim only for Floor 30 or 40.

That seems to be a popular strategy. I stopped after clearing floor 30 in August. At the time my tower rank was in the 290s. It is currently 303. I'm a little interested in knowing how many stopped after clearing floor 40 and 50. If anyone reading this stopped after either floor, please add a comment.

That seems to be a popular strategy. I stopped after clearing floor 30 in August. At the time my tower rank was in the 290s. It is currently 303. I'm a little interested in knowing how many stopped after clearing floor 40 and 50. If anyone reading this stopped after either floor, please add a comment.

I went to the floor 54 (and level 360), in the first 54 days. I spent many persistent credits to get it.

I decided to stop because it was taking too long, and because I left no time at that time (actually, I'm still without time for Isekai ).

My current ranking is 76th.

This post has been edited by Basara Nekki: Dec 19 2021, 18:47

I burned up my life force and cleared Floors 48 through 50 in a day. These last floors were a bit easier and only took 2.5 hours each, as my connection was a bit faster and I started using scrolls that I've been hoarding up (I've still got ~30 of each scroll left over). Holy geez, just noticed all my draughts are like down 0 to despite stocking ~200 of each prior to my last Tower run.

I also put Spirit Shield on innate arcana for the first time. Because at my current level range and 1H Heavy build, I noticed that it might actually be easier for me to survive without Spirit Shield, by just sparking a lot. My spirit drain was far less (like a third as much) and the play was in some respects safer because there is no chance to lose too much spirit from a big wack and then spark fails. However, the playing was a little slower that way.

(However, near the end of each Tower floor, I had always manually casted Spirit Shield because at that point I seemed to need it, or at least it made things more convenient). Just for the record, at Floor 41 I could clear in an hour, so I feel the difficulty increase was tough for level 300 players from Floor 41 to 50 this season. (I think this season is similar to last season before Floor 41).

- The end-of-season permanent stat bonuses are now officially fixed to floor level rather than being competitive. The Top 10 peerless voucher and per-floor damage bonus remain unchanged.
-- Clear Floor 50: +3 to all primary stats
-- Clear Floor 40: +2 to all primary stats
-- Clear Floor 30: +1 to all primary stats

Wait a minute, there might be a lot of players who stopped at Floor 50 because they misread the requirement.

When I entered Floor 50, I was level 315 and around Rank 148, if I recall. And my rank didn't change much as I cleared floors: I noticed just 1 other person who might be attempting to spurt to Floor 50 in the last days.

After clearing Floor 50, I'm now suddenly Rank 98. That means there are 50 buffoons who stopped after clearing only 49 Floors.

Or I could be the buffoon, because I am very dumb...