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post Jan 20 2021, 16:46
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This update was primarily focused on adding the new Isekai Mode. The part of the update that's applicable for Persistent is included below.


Bulk Shrining

As you level up, Snowflake will now start accepting lower-tier trophies in bulk, effectively upgrading the trophy by a number of tiers. This will significantly speed up shrining large numbers of low-tier trophies.

By default, the bulk upgrades are tied to your player level as such:

Level 200: Tier 2 => Tier 3 at a rate of 4:1
Level 300: Tier 3 => Tier 4 at a rate of 2:1
Level 400: Tier 4 => Tier 5 at a rate of 4:1

The upgrades are cumulative, so at level 400+ you will upgrade Tier 2 to Tier 5 at a rate of 32:1

These tier upgrades are balanced so they are a slight buff with regards to getting higher-tier equipment. Upgrading trophies to T3, T4 and T5 also adds 10%, 20% and 30% bonuses respectively to the original trophy value for the cumulative trophy credit counter for the Follower of Snowflake perk, and together with the trophy/equipment value changes listed below, it should be roughly a wash with sell + FoS value. YMMV when it comes to salvage materials.

To prevent the "need" to send trophies to accounts of higher or lower levels for any particular shrining outcome, there is a new toggle in the settings page that lets you override this trophy upgrading behavior. In other words, if you want, you can still shrine with no upgrades at level 500, or upgrade to tier 5 at level 1.

(In case you were wondering, there are no actual "Tier 1" trophies in the system, this is a dummy tier used by some arena clear rewards.)


Equipment Auto-Sell/Auto-Salvage

A new Auto-Sell/Auto-Salvage function has been added. This will automatically turn unwanted equipment into credits or salvage materials whenever dropped in battle or received in the Shrine.

You can enable this behavior with a new setting found on the Settings page. For each type of equipment, you can set it to either Sell or Salvage all drops up to a given quality (Average/Superior/etc). Unlike most settings, Auto-Sell/Salvage settings are shared across all profiles.

If both Sell and Salvage is set, and a particular equipment qualifies for both, it will do the one with the lowest quality requirement. In other words, for a particular type of equipment, you can for example have it keep Magnificent and above, salvage Exquisite and Superior, and sell everything below that.

Internally, the system will still fully generate the equipment piece up to the point where it would normally be added to your inventory, so the outcome will be exactly the same as if you sold or salvaged it manually.

Note however that you cannot "buy back" an auto-salvaged or auto-sold equipment piece, as it is never actually added to the database.


System/Misc

- Salvaging equipment will now give either an upgrade material or scrap materials, never both.

- Trophy value was rebalanced. (Monster-droppable T2 and T3 trophies are now worth more, while T4 and T5 are worth less.)

- Equipment value was slightly rebalanced. The value factor for wear is now capped to 0.75, specifically to reduce the value of fully-repaired (shrine-fresh) gear.

- Equipment will no longer grant base salvage when salvaged and re-bought multiple times. (It will still return upgrade materials.)

- Equipment is now auto-locked when removed from a MoogleMail.

- When shrining equipment with the Follower of Snowflake perk, instead of granting a Peerless equipment directly when you shrine an item, you will now receive the regular equipment plus a free Peerless Voucher (special-tier untradeable trophy item) which can be handed in for a guaranteed soulbound Peerless equip. This makes things more predictable for when the peerless is granted when shrining multiple items. It also removes the "need" to use a low-tier trophy for the peerless exchange to prevent it from being "wasted".

- The Shrine will no longer tell you to hit spacebar to shrine more items if there are not enough items available to shrine again. Hitting spacebar in this case will just close the popup box.

- Shrine Fortunes (the secondary trophy from the easter events) and Stocking Stuffers (the secondary winter gift trophy) are no longer tradeable.

- The state lock and associated limiter has been improved, and will now hand out gradually increasing ban lengths for aggressive multithreaded requests that pile up database locks. (Let me know if you ever encounter a problem with this during normal play.)

- Made the EXP readout when hovering the level a bit wider to prevent the number from cutting off at higher levels.

- If MoogleMail CoD is set, it must now be at least 10 credits.


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- A Persistent-only issue introduced in the previous update where you could rarely get an "extra" level-up leaving you with more than a level worth of exp to next level due to a lock being released prematurely should now be fixed.
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post Mar 8 2021, 05:25
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QUOTE(Tenrag @ Mar 7 2021, 17:55) *

umm, the 0.76 patch notes I linked directly say that this ratio is changed by the Tokenizer so I am not sure what more is there to explain:

Ah sorry I didn't notice that part of the changelog and was basing my assumptions solely on the wiki info.

So if that is indeed true, then we are to assume that the info on the wiki pertaining to
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T.Type Roll    20% / 80% (Blood / Chaos)

is also out of date since the 0.76 patch then, I guess. By the logic that blood tokens have a lower percentage and are therefore considered rarer, the perk would then increase its relative rate to something like, for example, 25% / 75%, right?

QUOTE(Nezu @ Mar 7 2021, 18:14) *

The wiki is still maintained, but there's not really much activity because there's not many good sources if we need to change information, and few of the volunteers have time and interest in doing any of the bigger work right now (I know I don't have time to do the isekai stuff, unfortunately, so Noni's covered some of it). We can't rely on Joe to do it all for us anymore...

I wouldn't mind contributing to the wiki, even if only restructuring the presentation of the already available information, but I've seen other people asking if they could edit it and the answer was something like "no, only trusted people are allowed" so dunno what the actual policy is.

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Anyway, if you do find proof that something is incorrect, and you have the correct information, please provide it over at the EHWiki report thread along with any sources or research you used to prove it.

The proof comes from an excel file that I'm building where I set all my attribute and equipment constants and simulate the stats with formulas. A couple of them return incorrect values, when compared to the character page on HV but with the correspondent tweaks (very small changes really) they return the same values.

I've actually been meaning to PM you and ask for some 2nd opinions but haven't gotten around to it yet.. I wanted to complete it before bugging you but have been having a bit of trouble confirming some monster lab results (mainly because morale is updated only with large increments and it's hard to confirm if the formulas are returning correct values).
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post Mar 15 2021, 04:49
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Mandatory #AddTheTowerToPersistent once in a while


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post Mar 20 2021, 09:29
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QUOTE(Juggernaut Santa @ Mar 14 2021, 13:49) *

Mandatory #AddTheTowerToPersistent once in a while

And include an Hath prize for the top percentile.


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post Mar 22 2021, 20:44
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Today, I was wondering why the shop tried to sell me 1 single item while I was planning my purchase over and over again.
I finally realized it was because I was clicking a bit low.

More accurately, the click validation for purchase is on the whole "itshop_t3" div, that extend to the full length of the buttons above.
I tried to move the onclick event on the "img" inside that div, and that made it work the way I would expect things to work (not using clicks that are far on the left and right of the image).

Is the current behavior a bug or a feature?



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post Apr 3 2021, 09:00
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QUOTE(Juggernaut Santa @ Mar 14 2021, 21:49) *

Mandatory #AddTheTowerToPersistent once in a while

Again, #AddTheTowerToPersistent for April 2021


QUOTE(RabidTanker @ Mar 20 2021, 02:29) *

And include an Hath prize for the top percentile.

Nah, it shouldn't for persistent.
Just add the mode, and retain only exp from rounds, equip drops and clear bonuses, like you're playing an arena or a grindfest. And that's it.
It is meant for current players to have a mode to test their limits with the years old gear they worked on.
In isekai there is kinda of a hard limit due to the limited time, the starting from zero and the limitations on trading and such.
It doesn't need to be super rewarding. Just challenging.


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[WTB] Any Scythe (unlimited) / Legendary * Scythe of Slaughter (1) @5M or exchange w/ PEERLESS Longsword / My Galleries (30) / My Bounties (0 Open)
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Power Set: [Helmet] / [Body] / [Hands] / [Legs] / [Feet] // Shielding Plate Set: [Helmet] / [Body] / [Hands] / [Legs] / [Feet]
Shade Set: [Helmet] / [Body] / [Hands] / [Legs] / [Feet] // Reinforced Leather of Deflection Set: [Helmet] / [Body] / [Hands] / [Legs] / [Feet]
Fire Mage Set: [ [Hot(ly) Rod] ] / [ [Torch] / [Pitchfork] ] / [Burning Hat] / [Fiery Cloak] / [Ignition Cloth Gloves] / [Butt on fire] / [Floor (that is lava)]
Adept Learner: MAX; Scavenger: 32/50; Luck of the Draw: 12/25; Quartermaster: 8/20; Archaeologist: 5/10; Forge: 126/50 (MAX); Monsters: 88 (34/95)
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post Apr 6 2021, 18:08
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Hello,

I'm not sure where to post that. Since yesterday, I don't have random monster encounter anymore. Is this expected ? Is this related to reach level 250 ?

Thanks !
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post Apr 6 2021, 19:20
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It's back now ! Never mind... Is it possible to delete the message ?
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post May 27 2021, 03:55
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QUOTE(Juggernaut Santa @ Apr 3 2021, 03:00) *

Again, #AddTheTowerToPersistent for April 2021

#AddTheTowerToPersistent for May 2021


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[WTS] My shop (Cheap Stuff) + Free Forge and Coupon Clipper Service + Monster Scan Bounty for Low Levels + My Legendary Drops History
[WTB] Any Scythe (unlimited) / Legendary * Scythe of Slaughter (1) @5M or exchange w/ PEERLESS Longsword / My Galleries (30) / My Bounties (0 Open)
Finding 2 Doujins - Bounty of 100k Each / Need Source of some image? Check this before asking anything to anyone :P
Weapons: {[ Rapier / Shield ] / [Waki] } / [ Axe / Club / Rapier ] / { Axe / [ Shortsword / Rapier ]} / [ Katana / Waki ] / Estoc / Longsword / Mace / Scythes
Power Set: [Helmet] / [Body] / [Hands] / [Legs] / [Feet] // Shielding Plate Set: [Helmet] / [Body] / [Hands] / [Legs] / [Feet]
Shade Set: [Helmet] / [Body] / [Hands] / [Legs] / [Feet] // Reinforced Leather of Deflection Set: [Helmet] / [Body] / [Hands] / [Legs] / [Feet]
Fire Mage Set: [ [Hot(ly) Rod] ] / [ [Torch] / [Pitchfork] ] / [Burning Hat] / [Fiery Cloak] / [Ignition Cloth Gloves] / [Butt on fire] / [Floor (that is lava)]
Adept Learner: MAX; Scavenger: 32/50; Luck of the Draw: 12/25; Quartermaster: 8/20; Archaeologist: 5/10; Forge: 126/50 (MAX); Monsters: 88 (34/95)
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post May 27 2021, 03:58
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QUOTE(Juggernaut Santa @ May 26 2021, 21:55) *
#AddTheTowerToPersistent for May 2021
It's almost the end of May though, should not you ask for June? tongue.gif


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post Jun 17 2021, 17:17
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QUOTE(uareader @ May 26 2021, 21:58) *

It's almost the end of May though, should not you ask for June? tongue.gif


No

QUOTE(Juggernaut Santa @ May 26 2021, 21:55) *

#AddTheTowerToPersistent for May 2021

#AddTheTowerToPersistent for June 2021


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[WTS] My shop (Cheap Stuff) + Free Forge and Coupon Clipper Service + Monster Scan Bounty for Low Levels + My Legendary Drops History
[WTB] Any Scythe (unlimited) / Legendary * Scythe of Slaughter (1) @5M or exchange w/ PEERLESS Longsword / My Galleries (30) / My Bounties (0 Open)
Finding 2 Doujins - Bounty of 100k Each / Need Source of some image? Check this before asking anything to anyone :P
Weapons: {[ Rapier / Shield ] / [Waki] } / [ Axe / Club / Rapier ] / { Axe / [ Shortsword / Rapier ]} / [ Katana / Waki ] / Estoc / Longsword / Mace / Scythes
Power Set: [Helmet] / [Body] / [Hands] / [Legs] / [Feet] // Shielding Plate Set: [Helmet] / [Body] / [Hands] / [Legs] / [Feet]
Shade Set: [Helmet] / [Body] / [Hands] / [Legs] / [Feet] // Reinforced Leather of Deflection Set: [Helmet] / [Body] / [Hands] / [Legs] / [Feet]
Fire Mage Set: [ [Hot(ly) Rod] ] / [ [Torch] / [Pitchfork] ] / [Burning Hat] / [Fiery Cloak] / [Ignition Cloth Gloves] / [Butt on fire] / [Floor (that is lava)]
Adept Learner: MAX; Scavenger: 32/50; Luck of the Draw: 12/25; Quartermaster: 8/20; Archaeologist: 5/10; Forge: 126/50 (MAX); Monsters: 88 (34/95)
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post Jul 13 2021, 16:40
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So when will we have 0.88 in the Persistent, I can’t wait to play it.


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绝大部分事情真相究竟怎么样我们这辈子恐怕也不会知道,虽然也没有都知道的价值就是了。
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post Jul 15 2021, 05:03
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QUOTE(Grandmasters @ Jul 13 2021, 10:40) *

So when will we have 0.88 in the Persistent, I can’t wait to play it.

Same.

QUOTE(Juggernaut Santa @ Jun 17 2021, 11:17) *

#AddTheTowerToPersistent for June 2021

#AddTheTowerToPersistent for July 2021


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[WTS] My shop (Cheap Stuff) + Free Forge and Coupon Clipper Service + Monster Scan Bounty for Low Levels + My Legendary Drops History
[WTB] Any Scythe (unlimited) / Legendary * Scythe of Slaughter (1) @5M or exchange w/ PEERLESS Longsword / My Galleries (30) / My Bounties (0 Open)
Finding 2 Doujins - Bounty of 100k Each / Need Source of some image? Check this before asking anything to anyone :P
Weapons: {[ Rapier / Shield ] / [Waki] } / [ Axe / Club / Rapier ] / { Axe / [ Shortsword / Rapier ]} / [ Katana / Waki ] / Estoc / Longsword / Mace / Scythes
Power Set: [Helmet] / [Body] / [Hands] / [Legs] / [Feet] // Shielding Plate Set: [Helmet] / [Body] / [Hands] / [Legs] / [Feet]
Shade Set: [Helmet] / [Body] / [Hands] / [Legs] / [Feet] // Reinforced Leather of Deflection Set: [Helmet] / [Body] / [Hands] / [Legs] / [Feet]
Fire Mage Set: [ [Hot(ly) Rod] ] / [ [Torch] / [Pitchfork] ] / [Burning Hat] / [Fiery Cloak] / [Ignition Cloth Gloves] / [Butt on fire] / [Floor (that is lava)]
Adept Learner: MAX; Scavenger: 32/50; Luck of the Draw: 12/25; Quartermaster: 8/20; Archaeologist: 5/10; Forge: 126/50 (MAX); Monsters: 88 (34/95)
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post Jul 15 2021, 23:04
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QUOTE(Grandmasters @ Jul 13 2021, 18:40) *

So when will we have 0.88 in the Persistent, I can’t wait to play it.


To be frank I'm waiting for the credits to exchange haths and to train ability points.
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post Jul 20 2021, 18:30
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It has been almost a month, and we have not waited for the HentaiVerse Persistent update.


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QUOTE(Grandmasters @ Jul 24 2021, 18:03) *
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QUOTE(chjj30 @ Apr 13 2017, 21:06) *
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QUOTE(Dreamophobia @ Jun 5 2017, 20:56) *
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QUOTE(Dreamophobia @ Jun 5 2017, 20:56) *
自己不动手查动脑子想,等着别人喂结论的蠢货就没有了解真相的资格。
QUOTE(Grandmasters @ Aug 22 2021, 10:35) *
没意思 实在是没意思


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QUOTE(eYe BuRn @ Mar 7 2021, 22:25) *

So if that is indeed true, then we are to assume that the info on the wiki pertaining to
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is also out of date since the 0.76 patch then, I guess. By the logic that blood tokens have a lower percentage and are therefore considered rarer, the perk would then increase its relative rate to something like, for example, 25% / 75%, right?


I am not going to give you a quote (You can search 0.76 thread for "tokens" if you really want to find it yourself) but I've read the thread when it was fresh and the chance to get blood tokens was reduced because some heavy grinders can get more blood tokens per day than they can spend in a day (or at least they could in 0.75). Meanwhile having 100 fully chaosed monsters without gold star or 200 with it while not physically impossible is a problem that affects very few people, if any, so chaos tokens are almost never wasted.

AFAIK you still get more blood tokens with Tokenizer than without it, just not twice/thrice/four times as much.

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