[X] My Assistant

HVMarket will be permanently closed for personal health reasons.

When the account is unbanned, it should continue automatically sending out stock. It's also now configured properly to no longer receive new mails. Any items that were collected in this time were still recorded and will still be returned. The order in which the items is returned may be chaotic and due to rate limitations, it may still take several days to return all stock (there's still about half of it remaining, across over 10,000 separate stock records). All credits should also be accounted for. The only players that may lose something are those who return recalls (which are not tracked, if I recall, due to edge cases with the special MoogleMail sender) and those who changed their username without ever updating their HVMarket account.

I am also retiring from HV for the foreseeable future. I apologise to everyone who was inconvenienced by this abrupt and irresponsible shutdown process. And thank you for participating in HVMarket - I made it because I wanted it to exist for myself as a player too, and it would not have been possible without community acceptance, adoption and feedback. Especially thank you to Shank, megawife-acc, firew, Literal Genie, KitsuneAbby, zhenterzzf, Ming28561, translators and foreign-language guide writers, Ikki Pop (your UI script was really cool!), Xeda, Jake643, and more.

Also thanks to Tenboro for the special exceptions made to allow HVMarket to exist, and to Superlatanium, sssss2 and sickentide for their services & scripts - without that work I doubt I would have ever been inspired to learn to do more, nor would I have envisioned a simple browser game with such a small community to be vibrant enough that it would support a whole ecosystem of extensions and interactive platforms beyond its own minor footprint on the overall site.

I wish you all the very best.
- Nezu

Noni edit: HVMarket account is now unbanned and should be resuming automatic return/payout.

Item send-outs have resumed. Sorry about the delay. It's probably still gonna take a little while and I'm going to check in on it until it's properly emptied.

I'm not willing to make HVMarket's code public in part because I'm aware of some flaws in it that I don't have the energy to fix right now, but also because it's just not very well managed as a project. I have not worked in the field before and I had not used many of the technologies involved before. I could offer advice and my knowledge about some of the edge cases when I've got time - the only part of the HVMarket code that might save anyone time is just knowing the branching paths in the mail system, and it's probably easier to relay that in English.

I can save a little time and advise against it [i.e. recreating HVMarket] for now, except in collaboration with Tenboro if an easier MoogleMail API were made accessible. The current interface is cumbersome (specifically regarding tracking CoD payments as the credit log is prone to missing entries, and the special MoogleMail sender & its functions in general) for programmer extension, and that will take time to navigate and properly test.

Later in the year I'm hoping to be back to spending more time at a desk programming. I have another project I want to work on. But if there's anything interesting going on in HV then I'll have a look at it and see if I can help.

This post has been edited by Noni: Apr 6 2022, 14:08

got 7 MM with items today
it would be better not to take them now?

we have no clue where they would be supposed to go... but it won't hurt if you don't take the items for a couple of days

In many cases readouts are likely to be a little weird due to the way the shutdown script was written initially. Most players should have received their near-complete stock but there are likely to be a few fragmented cases with odd numbers. This is partly caused by long-standing unknown edge cases with the HV/EH interfaces. I am aware of one double recall bug in recent times and there may have been other withdrawals like this in the past.

If you are aware of one of these cases or feel that you have sustained a significant loss, please read on:

As Noni said, impossible to fix without a Ledger; possibly Nezu could generate such a ledger from his database, but it would probably be a difficult and long work. I cannot see him undertaking it now, with his health problem.

The stock records have been unaffected by the shutdown process and are fully recoverable; I can provide authoritative records and Moogle trails for all unsold stock at time of shutdown - albeit a little tedious to process on a player-by-player basis, so depending on the volume of issues and what process we decide on for fixing them, there may be a significant delay before I can come back to properly handle those. Hopefully this can be limited to only high-value cases.

Most players should have received their near-complete stock

I doubted if that's true...In my case I have web cached my HVM stock page on the same day HVM is down (3/24), and according to my record I have currently received only ~30% amount of my stock, with 70% outstanding stock equivalent to ~9.1M worth @low & ~11M @my selling price.

Most of my outstanding valuable items are Trophies, which was sent to HVM on a daily basis. I guess that's why I have only received 4 (2+2) Noodly now, which are likely the most recent MMs (1-2days) I have sent. And I still got 40 Noodly left on HVM according to my record.

I afraid this would also happen on other players that was sending items to HVM frequently, most likely trophies or any other items they were storing, the amount & hence the total value could be large.

This post has been edited by cornandbeans: Apr 7 2022, 10:05

tenboro is considering integrating a HVMarket-like service in hentaiverse. Please check with tenboro before starting your own rebuild. You may know that I have a track-record of being too optimistic about the speed of development, but in this case I'm optimistic about the speed of development. We'll see.

tenboro is considering integrating a HVMarket-like service in hentaiverse. Please check with tenboro before starting your own rebuild. You may know that I have a track-record of being too optimistic about the speed of development, but in this case I'm optimistic about the speed of development. We'll see.

I hear it will have hookers, too.

Hey, I got some HVM recall moogles but they are basically repeats of what I previously got. I removed a few before realizing they were not infact stuff I was missing. I can turn them in whenever but I think moogles to hvm are disabled so I'll wait.

Ming is a rodent, too?

Squirrel Ming!

I remember I had 600 PA before HVM down
But other details cannot be Memories
The Great HVM brings a lot of convenience and also makes me lose my memory

Many thanks for your dedication.

So I sent a small pack of items to HVMarket on the 25th before I found out about the situation, and it says it was opened 3 days ago, but I have yet to get anything back.

Are they gone for good?
It wasn't anything BIG, just a "precurser artifact" and "scroll of the gods", but they're still worth something...



This post has been edited by Look A Moth: Apr 10 2022, 07:48

So I sent a small pack of items to HVMarket on the 25th before I found out about the situation, and it says it was opened 3 days ago, but I have yet to get anything back.

Are they gone for good?
It wasn't anything BIG, just a "precurser artifact" and "scroll of the gods", but they're still worth something...

Not likely to be lost, as you have said "3 days ago" but I kept receiving xtal packs in different mails, the most recent of which was just yesterday.

Crystals are grouped at 20k, jamming the mail system. This might be the majority in the queue, I guess.

This post has been edited by Arith Undine: Apr 10 2022, 09:23

Has anyone received any more recall mails in the last few days?

Has anyone received any more recall mails in the last few days?

No, but i think it can be cuz nezus Health... I think.

@nezu You reported that you would put the site code up online. Do you have a GitHub link?

Also, I'm terribly sorry to hear about you health! As someone perpetually on disability, I have *some* experience with the "chronic health issues" thing, so good to hear you are taking care of yourself! (At first, when I attempted to lookup info, I thought that someone might have died or something.)

I was sad to see the market go down—unfortunately, it wasn't until about a month or so ago that I even discovered that there *was* a marketplace—maybe, that can be an add-on for the next update, oh great fearless coders and admins of HV? [Looks with great pleading eyes, cuz grinding be giving me WOW flashbacks! 🤦🏽‍♂️to coincide with worsening carpel tunnel from gaming on ze phone. 🤦🏽‍♂️ [I gotta figure out where to report HV bugs so someone can take a look at Firefox for Android—me no want to use Chrome to play! [Hisses] My poor drop down menus! [Cry]y

Anyhow, Nezu, I hope you feel better & get well.

On a side note: If someone wants to manage it, I wouldn't mind funding a server archon. I figure for a text based game, the hosting requirements aren't exactly crazy, just a lot of low bandwidth simultaneous connections—transactions.

Unfortunately, no, I sadly do not possess an IBM Mainframe lying around my garage, so I can't offer *that* sort of reliability. Yes—the tragedy!

But, in mostly all seriousness, given how important HV is to the survival/usability of the general site, and how crippling not having an auction house/marketplace for consistent mats access, without a viable market, HV becomes rather brutal and single player vs a more community experience. Nezu, you truly completed an honorable feat with the community! You all should be so proud! [Applause] Even with bugs, it showed how drastically improved the game becomes (and more fun) when one has access to (at minimum) a mats marketplace. :3

I wouldn't say that the site being rip is "inconvenient" as much as showing inherent flaws in the game dynamics. A market incentives more experienced players to contribute their excess resources to the community at large while also helping players, particularly newer players like myself, not have to reinvent the wheel, thereby incentivising us to play, participate, and thereby interact more on the main site. I find that it for me creates a cyclical, compounding increase in participation—particularly for those of us without fibre connections that could enable us to due P2P support for Hath (Even Comcast Business Class only offers 15Mbps up. 😭😭😭) as opposed to merely doing limited support.

I hope that the community of the HV development team finds a means to pickup the pieces caused by (quite relatably) life, so that things may progress.

That said, if you setup a HVMarket GitHub or similar for the code dump and other stuff, that would definitely help consolidate stuff. :3

Anyhow, MANY MANY THANKS! ❤️💯🙇🏽🙏🏽

[And I wasn't kidding about shelling out for server support. Ice do it myself at home, but like I said—no meaningful uploads capacity—US Infrastructure = 😭😭😭😭🤦🏽‍♂️ but a virtual or dedicated server I could definitely fund if we have the code public & if some generous folks would be up to helping manage said virtual/dedicated server(s).]

Anyhow, let me know & take care everyone!

Thank you again for your dedication & service!

—The Dragon Lord

This post has been edited by Dragoon91786: Apr 14 2022, 09:57

Thank you for your dedication.I received much help from HVM when I started.
Wish you to recover soon.

Did someone make a list of all the latest HV prices? I recall that someone did, but now I can't find that post. Or maybe I dreamed about this game and imagined it.

I want to buy some bindings, but now I can't check what things were most recently going for. I used to use other methods for this, but HVMarket took a lot of activity away from elsewhere, so it was a convenient way to check pricing trends.

edit: Nevermind, found it. This post may be deleted by anyone with such powers. Or it could be left if deemed useful here.

Since HVMarket went 502 close to Super's auction that week I went looking for archives of the market prices for proxy bid reference within my own MM records, snapshots and archival sites. archive.org was no good with a snapshot of January at most but google did have a more recent one. With the official closure of HVMarket there's no reason to hold onto this anymore. Hopefully it may serve as reference for everyone else too.



March 23rd snapshot of the HVMarket prices

This post has been edited by BlueWaterSplash: Apr 16 2022, 01:50

Did someone make a list of all the latest HV prices? I recall that someone did, but now I can't find that post. Or maybe I dreamed about this game and imagined it.

I want to buy some bindings, but now I can't check what things were most recently going for. I used to use other methods for this, but HVMarket took a lot of activity away from elsewhere, so it was a convenient way to check pricing trends.

edit: Nevermind, found it. This post may be deleted by anyone with such powers. Or it could be left if deemed useful here.

/index.php?showtopic=243072 I put it here as well, that list

I guess everyone has read this news by now. We can expect a permanent replacement, in-game, in June 2022.

The stock records have been unaffected by the shutdown process and are fully recoverable; I can provide authoritative records and Moogle trails for all unsold stock at time of shutdown - albeit a little tedious to process on a player-by-player basis, so depending on the volume of issues and what process we decide on for fixing them, there may be a significant delay before I can come back to properly handle those. Hopefully this can be limited to only high-value cases.

Welcome back! Just want to know any update about HVM?

Welcome back! Just want to know any update about HVM?

HVM is gone. Stuff is lost. No refunds.

Can't make it any better than it is. It's like that, and that's the way it is.