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π DOs and DON'Ts in HentaiVerse, List of 28 simple rules you should know |
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Oct 12 2017, 22:09
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f4tal
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Hello. That thread gives you short run of TOP-28 rules what you should and should not do in HentaiVerse.  At first, that thread may scare you with lots of terms, like "shrining", "salvaging", "soulfusing", etc. Don't be afraid - when you will start playing the game, you will learn what all these weird words mean. Just read that thread and bookmark it. Return to it when you need help or extra hints. It may look as too long thread, but you want to avoid common mistakes and pitfalls - you have to read it  --- Good luck 0. If you are having problems with regular HentaiVerse (hentaiverse.org), then try to play on alternative domain ([alt.hentaiverse.org] alt.hentaiverse.org).1. Read the wiki- There is a huge wiki dedicated to HentaiVerse with advice, formulas and explanations. If you have any questions or don't understand some concepts of the game - read the wiki first.
- Start with following pages:
2. Ask questions in forum- There is also the forum dedicated to HentaiVerse.
- You can ask any question in Ask the Expert thread. "Is my equipment good? Are my stats good? Is my build right? Am I doing everything right" - ask anything you want. Do not be shy, tell yourself: "Forum people are already used to see random newbies asking questions and stuff" Β©.
- If you want to practice a little with posting a message, then check this section. Here you can post any message, practice with quotes, markup, etc.
- If you don't like default "white"-outlook of the forum, then you can select "black" one. You can change skins in the bottom-left corner:
 3. Trade with other players (visit WTB and WTS) - Trading with other players is major part of the game and you should do this if you want to get good equipment and items.
- There are two sections in the forum where you can trading:
- WTS (Willing To Sell)- here, players are selling their items and equipment for other players (have their own shops);
- WTB (Willing To Buy)- here, players are asking for items and equipment to buy from other players (leaving the requests);
- You are using MoogleMail for trading with other players. Think of MoogleMail as a message you can send to other player with attaching either credits or equipment/item.
- If you want to send something to other player, but want him to pay you first before he can get attachments from your message, then you should use CoD.
- By default CoD-service is not free. You can buy Postage Paid hath perk to make it free. That perk costs like than 40,000 credits, and you should buy it ASAP.
4. You can get equipment, items and credits for free- In WTS you can find lots of shops where high-leveled players are giving goodies to newcomers for free. Yes, for free.
- To find these shops just search for the word "free" in the name or description of the shop.
 - Before asking for something, please, carefully read the rules. Some shop-keeper have level/message requirements.
- Here is few shops that might help you:
- FreeShop (This is special shop, the has been created for solely purpose to help novices) - free restoratives and equipment;
- Sweetness Overload - free credits;
- ST-Ru - free restoratives, selling items from Item Shop with 10% discount, free renting of equipment;
- Epion - free restoratives, selling items from Item Shop with 10% discount, free reforge;
- End Of All Hope - free equipment, selling items from Item Shop with 10% discount, free reforge;
- hc br - free restoratives, free equipment;
- as013 - free restoratives, free credits;
- fihero - free equipment;
- TygerTyger - free Item World;
- Kira.Yoshikage - free restoratives;
- qiaoyao12456 - free restoratives;
- P.S. Guys & ladies, thank you all for your kindness

5. Do not use Credits to download galleries! Use GP instead- High chances that you started to play HentaiVerse to get enough Credits to download Galleries. You can use not only Credits for this purpose, but also GP. With GP you can download three times more galleries.
- To convert your Credits into GP, visit GP Exchange page and follow these steps:
 6. Visit the News Page every day- Every day by visit the News Page and you will get free EXP, Credits and refresh Arenas' cooldown.
7. You receive double EXP for posting in forum at least once per 30 days- Yes, make a post in forum and in next 30 days you will receive double EXP.
- If you just need that bonus but you don't want to talk with people, then please do yourself a favor and post that one message somewhere here - don't spam and create useless threads. Thanks.
8. Do not level up fast- Probably you are thinking that faster you will level up - the more abilities, training and spells you will have and then your gameplay will be easier. This is not quite true.
- Not only you are leveling up, but so the monsters too. Your equipment, on other hand, do not level up with you. So in the end you might fight with monsters that will be too powerful for you to beat with poor equipment. There is only one way to make equipment to level up with you - soulfusing, but it is an expensive procedure.
- Do not push ahead, like a raging bull, trying to get high level as soon as possible. You should get the knowledge about the game, not just plain number that represents your level.
- Even by playing on lowest difficulty, you will level up fast. Especially if you got 2x EXP bonus from step 5 above. You can easily get level 200 in ~15-20 days with no haste.
9. Do not start playing as mage, start as melee- Your favored RPG class is mage and you want to start playing as mage in HentaiVerse? Sorry, wrong door then, in HentaiVerse, mage is an endgame-class, while melee is startgame-class.
- Mage equipment is very expensive and on lower levels you just don't have good spells - it is just extremely hard to play as mage right from level one.
- Technically, if you have "instruments" behind the game (you are donator, using H@H, adopted-a-server, etc), then you can try to start playing as mage, but if you have nothing, then start playing as melee - it is more effective, easy and comfortable.
- Start playing as Two-handed melee with Light armor or One-handed melee with Heavy armor. Former is called 2H/Light, latter is called 1H/Heavy.
- 1H/Heavy: high defense, low avoidance, high HP, low MP, slow;
- 2H/Light: low defense, high avoidance, low HP, high MP, fast;
10. Do not mind the quality of equipment- Equipment may be one of the following quality: Crude, Fair, Average, Superior, Exquisite, Magnificent, Legendary, Peerless.
- The common mistake is trying to get equipment of great quality as soon as possible. This is wrong. Do not try to get Legendary or Peerless in first day of playing, and even in the first month. They are rare, they are expensive, you have not enough knowledge to tell good equipment from bad. There is nothing wrong in changing the quality of equipment, but such changing should be gradually and adequate.
11. Do not mixup the armor pieces- In the game you can find three types of armor: heavy, light and cloth. You should not mixup these three type of armor. Either use all Heavy pieces, or all Light, or all Cloth.
- Each of this three type can be one of two kinds: common and rare.
- Heavy: plate (common), power (rare). Heavy is melee armor, good defense, bad avoidance.
- Light: leather (common), shade (rare). Light is melee armor, bad defense, good avoidance.
- Cloth: cotton (common), phase (rare). Cloth is mage armor.
12. Do not soulfuse Average or Superior equipment- Soulfusing is an expensive procedure and you should not waste it on low-quality equipment.
- It takes same amount of Soul Fragments to soulfuse both Superior and Exquisite equipment, however the latter is more powerful and have better stats.
- Just do not soulfuse anything below Exquisite quality no matter how fabulous that equipment looks.
- Some folks advising do not soulfuse Exquisite quality either and soulfuse only Magnificent, Legendary and Peerless. Other people are telling that it is up to player what one should and should not soulfuse and if one want to soulfuse Average equipment - he might do this. It is debatable field.
13. Do not buy equipment with level higher than yours - you cannot equip it- Most times it is a waste of Credits.
 - There are only two exceptions:
- You can soulfuse equipment with level no more than 100 level higher than yours (you have 14 level - you can soulfuse equipment with level 114, but cannot soulfuse equipment with level 115), but soulfusing costs a lot.
- You can buy equipment with level higher than yours, then level up and equip it (purchasing equipment for future using).
14. Always "lock" equipment you don't want to sell or salvage- To prevent you from accidentally selling or salvaging equipment - lock it by clicking on the icon of lock near its name.
 - You also can send equipment to the storage and completely hide it.
 15. Do not forget to activate your ability- After upgrading abilities - do not forget to actually activate them.
- Click on the icon of ability and be sure icon appeared at the top panel (aka "put ability in the slot").
 16. Use spells- Spells can be one of four group
- Offensive - attacking spells that can be one of six types: Fire, Ice(Cold), Elec, Wind, Holy(Divine) & Dark(Forbidden). Only mage need to use these.
- Debuffs - spells that make enemies weaker, slower, break their defense. Both melee and mage should use them.
- Buffs - spells that make you stronger, faster, increase your defense. Both melee and mage should use them.
- Cures - spells that heals your wounds. Both melee and mage should use them.
- So, as you can see, melee should use spells too, therefore melee should raise his magical stats too. Mostly he should use various buffs to help himself to survive enemies' attack. (if you have a mindset from other RPG that melee don't need spells - forget about this stereotype).
- Remember one thing:
- Casting any spell, even Cure, costs few turns, so enemies can attack you right after you have cast spell (some fast enemies may even attack twice!).
- Using items costs 0 (zero) turns, in other words, enemies cannot attack you after you have used items (no matter, Draught, Potion, Elixir, Scroll, Infusion or what). So whenever, you have chance, use items first and only then, if your HP is still low, cast a Cure spell.
- You can put most frequently using spells or/and skills in a special quickbar that appears during the battle.
 17. Cast Spark of Life with care- At some point of the game you will unlock Spark of Life spells that gives you "second chance" and saves from death (from fatal strike). After saving your life, spell will be removed.
- The tricky thing is that spell requires you to have at least 50% of your base Spirit Points (SP); if you have not enough - spell will fail and monsters will attack you (you spent turn). Whenever Spark of Life saves you from death, it absorbs 50% of your base SP.
- Novices often are making same mistake - they immediately trying to re-cast that spell after it saved their life, but instead they dying, because have not enough base SP.
- Before casting Spark of Life be sure that you have at least 50% of base SP available.
- Base SP and real SP are two different things. In short - base SP is your innate SP meter without any bonuses; real SP (one you see in the battle) is adjusted base SP. Until you will be proficient enough, just keep you SP meter at least 50% full.
18. Do not forget to put items into item slots- To make a character able to use an item during the battle - you first should put that item into"item slots" (equip it).
- Visit the Item Inventory and transfer desired items into slots.
 19. Use numpad to attack monsters and other hotkeys- You attack monsters either by clicking on them, or by pressing numpad (or regular number) buttons. For example, hold key "2" to attack the second monster in the battle.
- More hotkeys you can find here.
20. Do not sell items to the bazaar- Just remember: never sell anything to the bazaar. At least until you will be proficient enough to tell important items from unimportant.
- Players in the WTB section are willing to pay dozens, even hundreds thousands credits for some items because they are rare.
21. Do not play Grindfest; play Random Encounters- Grindfest is the battle mode, designed for high-level players, not for newcomers. In this mode you will receive less Credits, less EXP, however difficulty is astonishing. For novice there is NO chance to finish that battle mode or even advance past 50 round - don't try and waste your time.
- Instead, go play more Random Encounters - it is a special battle mode that available every 30 minutes 24 times per day. You should visit the News Page and click on the link. In that mode you get more Credits, more EXP and better drops than in Arenas.
22. Do you really need to use Energy Drink?- When you are playing, your Stamina slowly is being reduced and when it hits 80 received EXP will be reduced in half. Energy Drink restores stamina by 10 points. That is why novices tend to use that item mindlessly in a sake of getting more EXP.
- On other hand, you can get those 10 points of stamina back, by stopping playing any Battle Mode for 10 hours. In other words - just wait 10 hours.
- Players in WTB eager to pay 100,000+ credits per Energy Drink, making it one of the most valuable items.
- Just ask yourself: "what is better: wait for 10 hours and get easy cash from some buyer or use Energy Drink and continue playing and let the cash go?"
23. Do you really need to shrine trophies?- You can shrine trophies in order to get good equipment, but just yourself: "is it really worthy?".
- Shrining trophies is a gamble with odd outcomes for you. One may shrine 1,000 trophies and receive nothing good from it. Some players NEVER got anything valuable from the shrining trophies.
- Instead of shrining trophies blindly, maybe your should start selling them to people in WTB section? It is a guaranteed income that may give you ~1,000,000 credits in 12-15 days (depending on your luck of course).
24. Think about buying Innate Arcana hath perk- Innate Arcana hath perk allows you to automatically cast (and recast) certain buff spells; in other words, you do not need to manually cast those spells anymore.
It is extremely useful, saves your time and allows to spend more time on battle itself, instead of checking how many turns left on buffs.
 - There are five levels of Innate Arcana - each allows you to auto-cast additional buff spell (making five auto-spells in total). Also, each level of Innate Arcana decreases the MP consumption of auto-casted spells.
- Innate Arcana is not that expensive (first level costs ~200,000 credits) and benefits are amazing.
25. Think about buying Gold Star- Gold Star gives you lots of various bonuses, most important of which are:
- Doubles the amount of monsters in Monster Lab;
- Doubles the number of received EXP;
- Halves the monster morale and hunger drain rates
- +50% to MP/SP regeneration
- You can get the Gold Star in one of the two ways:
- Donate 100$;
- Find "Gold Star seller", who are willing to change his 100$ for your Credits (~60,000,000 credits);
26. Think about buying OFC- OFC (stands for Orbital Friendship Cannon) - is extremely powerful melee spell that can kill most enemies in one successful strike.
 - OFC takes 50 steps to recharge itself, and you can use it as many times as you want during the battle.
- To start using OFC you need to collect 21 different pony figurines. Chances to drop one figurine during the battle is very low (1% of 0,4% of 20%), so instead visit the WTS-section and buy these 21 figurines from various players. Each figurine cost ~25,000 credits, so you get the OFC for ~550,000 credits. Remember: 21 DIFFERENT figurines.
27. Spend Chaos tokens on creating new monsters, instead upgrading existing ones- It feels like a good idea to create one/two/three monsters and upgrade them only, waiting for lots of gifts, but that tactic will not work.
- You need to spend million(s) of credits on monster to make it good enough to get wins, and then you need month(s) to get return of investment from such monster.
- Instead of upgrading existing monsters - create as many monsters as possible. Yes, they will be weak, but every three days they will return you a guaranteed gift - no huge investments, no headache; just create and get a gift every three days.
- You can make them extra profitable by upgrading their Scavenger chaos upgrade (it increases chance to get more gifts). Experts also recommend to raise the Power Level of your monsters to 100, to give him a little room to kill anyone.
28. Use scripts- Scripts are your little helpers. They give you extra abilities, features and enhance your gameplay. If you never heard about scripts, than read that guide.
- You can find list of scripts in wiki.
- Just to demonstrate you abilities of the scripts, this is Monsterbation script, that greatly enhance your battle management by giving you lots of information (extra quickbar, hotkeys, time and speed log, drop log), but most importantly it allow you to attack monsters by hovering your cursor instead of clicking.
 Impressive, isn't?
--- Inspired by "What was your biggest F*ck-up in HV?" and Pimp my HentaiVerse threads, as well lots of posts here and there in Ask the Experts. This post has been edited by f4tal: Oct 18 2017, 04:29
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DOs & DON'Ts - You are novice and need help with HentaiVerse? Read this. Useful Links:FAQ | Advice (for novices) | Advice Advanced (for proficient players) | Ask the Experts | Price check | Discuss your stats and build | Freeshop | Script guide | Script compendiumUseful scripts:- Smart Search - script for WTS/WTB. Helps you to bulk-scan various WTB/WTS thread, find items for cheaper price, do a search with * (wildcards) and Regex.
- Monsterbation - script for battles. Greatly enhance your battle experience (drop tracker, turn counter, show current round, display information about monsters, so on) and allows you to attack enemies by hovering the cursor.
- ToolBox - multi-purpose script. Allows multi-bazaar/shrine/salvage, helps create a shop, calculates price of shrined materials against bazaar price, provides lots of handy tweaks. Based on holy_demon's ItemManager and Superlatanium's Percentile Range scripts.
- Red - script for Random Encounters. Gives you timer until next RE and notify you when RE is ready, shows list, links, counters, allows open RE link in alt-site, open in same tab.
Π― Π³ΠΎΠ²ΠΎΡΡ Π½Π° ΡΡΡΡΠΊΠΎΠΌ ΡΠ·ΡΠΊΠ΅. ΠΡΠ»ΠΈ Π½ΡΠΆΠ½Π° ΠΏΠΎΠΌΠΎΡΡ Ρ ΠΈΠ³ΡΠΎΠΉ, Π° Π°Π½Π³Π»ΠΈΠΉΡΠΊΠΈΠΉ 'Π²Π΅ΡΠΈ Π±ΡΠ΄', ΡΠΎ ΠΏΠΈΡΠΈ ΠΌΠ½Π΅ Π² Π»ΠΈΡΠΊΡ, ΠΏΠΎΠΌΠΎΠ³Ρ ΡΠ΅ΠΌ ΡΠΌΠΎΠ³Ρ :)
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Oct 16 2017, 18:03
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BlueWaterSplash

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I died deliberately, I was trying to give you crystallized phazons. I realized that if you are naked, it doesn't hurt to die, as there is nothing to repair. But I got scolding, so I won't fight naked anymore.  I also recently realized that since I have raised my monster stats in an extremely unbalanced way, even though they are only PL 280, the amount of invested crystals might be more like a PL 800 monster. I've been trying to get strength and endurance on my celestial and human approaching +15, while their other stat boosts are like at +2. Uncle and I have been trying to figure out how come I got so poor I couldn't afford to feed my monsters a while back (I am okay now). This foolishness probably contributed.
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Oct 16 2017, 19:36
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Juggernaut Santa

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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Oct 16 2017, 12:03)  Even though they are only PL 280, the amount of invested crystals might be more like a PL 800 monster. I've been trying to get strength and endurance on my celestial and human approaching +15
+15/+32 is PL 993, actually
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Oct 16 2017, 19:37
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ikki.

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QUOTE(f4tal @ Oct 13 2017, 04:06)  If you have an idea what I can/need add/improve (apart from grammar, of course  ), the post here. Or in PM  Do not ever play on Normal Difficulty. Because Amnesia Shards price ~ 15-17K.
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Oct 18 2017, 00:17
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f4tal
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Update first and second posts  QUOTE(piyin @ Oct 13 2017, 06:58)  Dont forget to mention the "Do get a golden star as soon as possible"  . Done. QUOTE(jacquelope @ Oct 14 2017, 09:33)  3.5m credits on one monster? That's ~100 crystal packs. ...
QUOTE(End Of All Hope @ Oct 14 2017, 17:56)  Following the above discussion nope. ... Just create 200 low pl monster first, trust me. To prevent any mis-conceptions and mis-understanding - I rewrote passage about monsters. QUOTE(DJNoni @ Oct 14 2017, 10:02)  The yellow exclamation mark triangle, plust the all-caps DO and DON'T make it a bit, how you say that in proper English, schoolteachery? You know, stern, pointing a finger:
Well  Seriously, there are so many emoji around and I don't know what fits best here. let's put "thumb up". If you, DJNoni, or Scremaz think that other emoji will be better here - feel free to change it to whatever you like, I am completely not against it  See here for quick library: /index.php?showtopic=210254QUOTE(Ikki Pop @ Oct 16 2017, 14:37)  Do not ever play on Normal Difficulty. Because Amnesia Shards price ~ 15-17K.
Sorry, I don't understand you. Can you tell more? What do you mean? Or anyone? This post has been edited by f4tal: Oct 18 2017, 00:55
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DOs & DON'Ts - You are novice and need help with HentaiVerse? Read this. Useful Links:FAQ | Advice (for novices) | Advice Advanced (for proficient players) | Ask the Experts | Price check | Discuss your stats and build | Freeshop | Script guide | Script compendiumUseful scripts:- Smart Search - script for WTS/WTB. Helps you to bulk-scan various WTB/WTS thread, find items for cheaper price, do a search with * (wildcards) and Regex.
- Monsterbation - script for battles. Greatly enhance your battle experience (drop tracker, turn counter, show current round, display information about monsters, so on) and allows you to attack enemies by hovering the cursor.
- ToolBox - multi-purpose script. Allows multi-bazaar/shrine/salvage, helps create a shop, calculates price of shrined materials against bazaar price, provides lots of handy tweaks. Based on holy_demon's ItemManager and Superlatanium's Percentile Range scripts.
- Red - script for Random Encounters. Gives you timer until next RE and notify you when RE is ready, shows list, links, counters, allows open RE link in alt-site, open in same tab.
Π― Π³ΠΎΠ²ΠΎΡΡ Π½Π° ΡΡΡΡΠΊΠΎΠΌ ΡΠ·ΡΠΊΠ΅. ΠΡΠ»ΠΈ Π½ΡΠΆΠ½Π° ΠΏΠΎΠΌΠΎΡΡ Ρ ΠΈΠ³ΡΠΎΠΉ, Π° Π°Π½Π³Π»ΠΈΠΉΡΠΊΠΈΠΉ 'Π²Π΅ΡΠΈ Π±ΡΠ΄', ΡΠΎ ΠΏΠΈΡΠΈ ΠΌΠ½Π΅ Π² Π»ΠΈΡΠΊΡ, ΠΏΠΎΠΌΠΎΠ³Ρ ΡΠ΅ΠΌ ΡΠΌΠΎΠ³Ρ :)
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Oct 18 2017, 00:20
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Scremaz

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QUOTE(f4tal @ Oct 17 2017, 18:17)  Sorry, I don't understand you. Can you tell more? What do you mean? Or anyone?  amnesia shards are reported to drop on all difficulties except Normal. it's the reason because we suggested to play SG arenas at least on Hard until, uh... 0.85? or 0.86? whatever.
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Oct 18 2017, 00:26
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f4tal
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 17 2017, 19:20)  amnesia shards are reported to drop on all difficulties except Normal. it's the reason because we suggested to play SG arenas at least on Hard until, uh... 0.85? or 0.86? whatever.
They are? Never heard about it... Checked the wiki - yeah, there is such note. Okay, should I really put information about it in this thread, because in my opinion it is more advanced information, not the thing one should really know...  I can put it, no problems, but do we really need it here?
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DOs & DON'Ts - You are novice and need help with HentaiVerse? Read this. Useful Links:FAQ | Advice (for novices) | Advice Advanced (for proficient players) | Ask the Experts | Price check | Discuss your stats and build | Freeshop | Script guide | Script compendiumUseful scripts:- Smart Search - script for WTS/WTB. Helps you to bulk-scan various WTB/WTS thread, find items for cheaper price, do a search with * (wildcards) and Regex.
- Monsterbation - script for battles. Greatly enhance your battle experience (drop tracker, turn counter, show current round, display information about monsters, so on) and allows you to attack enemies by hovering the cursor.
- ToolBox - multi-purpose script. Allows multi-bazaar/shrine/salvage, helps create a shop, calculates price of shrined materials against bazaar price, provides lots of handy tweaks. Based on holy_demon's ItemManager and Superlatanium's Percentile Range scripts.
- Red - script for Random Encounters. Gives you timer until next RE and notify you when RE is ready, shows list, links, counters, allows open RE link in alt-site, open in same tab.
Π― Π³ΠΎΠ²ΠΎΡΡ Π½Π° ΡΡΡΡΠΊΠΎΠΌ ΡΠ·ΡΠΊΠ΅. ΠΡΠ»ΠΈ Π½ΡΠΆΠ½Π° ΠΏΠΎΠΌΠΎΡΡ Ρ ΠΈΠ³ΡΠΎΠΉ, Π° Π°Π½Π³Π»ΠΈΠΉΡΠΊΠΈΠΉ 'Π²Π΅ΡΠΈ Π±ΡΠ΄', ΡΠΎ ΠΏΠΈΡΠΈ ΠΌΠ½Π΅ Π² Π»ΠΈΡΠΊΡ, ΠΏΠΎΠΌΠΎΠ³Ρ ΡΠ΅ΠΌ ΡΠΌΠΎΠ³Ρ :)
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Oct 18 2017, 00:48
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Scremaz

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if it's for that, everytime i look at this thread the number of DO(N'T)S grows bigger... 
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Oct 18 2017, 02:16
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ALL_MIGHT

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QUOTE(f4tal @ Oct 17 2017, 21:56)  but do we really need it here?
Correct me if i am wrong. I think this isn't applicable after new updates. So, there is no need to put outdated info ( which is now changed) 
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Oct 18 2017, 05:48
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BlueWaterSplash

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I don't know about the patch changes, but the wiki was never clear on whether the chances of amnesia shards also improve with level. If they do, then it's not so vital to consider this. If they don't, and just drop at the same rate at any difficulty above normal, then yeah it's a good reason to play on at least hard.
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Oct 18 2017, 06:46
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KitsuneAbby

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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Oct 17 2017, 23:48)  I don't know about the patch changes, but the wiki was never clear on whether the chances of amnesia shards also improve with level. If they do, then it's not so vital to consider this. If they don't, and just drop at the same rate at any difficulty above normal, then yeah it's a good reason to play on at least hard.
I have a vague memory of me dropping them just as fast in Hard than now in PFUDOR. I can be mistaken though.
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Oct 28 2017, 19:55
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cxxts
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im upset i did not know about the double xp from posting thing, so much xp wasted 
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Oct 28 2017, 20:28
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volcanic1

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QUOTE(cxxts @ Oct 28 2017, 20:55)  im upset i did not know about the double xp from posting thing, so much xp wasted  Yeah, me too... in my case, I didn't notice it untill lv.250  It was a tough time This post has been edited by volcanic1: Oct 28 2017, 20:29
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Oct 29 2017, 03:04
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BlueWaterSplash

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Actually, gaining EXP is not always a good thing and this is hinted at in parts of the wiki as well. It is actually better that you do not gain the forum EXP bonus until you are near level 200, in my opinion. I knew about the bonus but deliberately did not speak on the forum until I had to. Likewise, although it is cheap, beginners and even medium level players should reconsider whether to train Adept Learner.
Come to think of it, this may be something worth adding to this thread's topic advice. Edit: Nevermind, this already seems to be well written in the topic advice.
Perhaps a poll is in order. Who here has the lowest Adept Learner? I have 40, and I wish I had trained less but I didn't know any better before.
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Oct 29 2017, 03:18
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lololo16

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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Oct 28 2017, 16:04)  Perhaps a poll is in order. Who here has the lowest Adept Learner? I have 40, and I wish I had trained less but I didn't know any better before.
I had 3 until 5 days ago. Now I have 20 :D
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Oct 29 2017, 03:27
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chjj30

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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Oct 29 2017, 03:04)  Actually, gaining EXP is not always a good thing and this is hinted at in parts of the wiki as well. It is actually better that you do not gain the forum EXP bonus until you are near level 200, in my opinion. I knew about the bonus but deliberately did not speak on the forum until I had to. Likewise, although it is cheap, beginners and even medium level players should reconsider whether to train Adept Learner.
Come to think of it, this may be something worth adding to this thread's topic advice.
Perhaps a poll is in order. Who here has the lowest Adept Learner? I have 40, and I wish I had trained less but I didn't know any better before.
If someone is under 300, the usable but not good Equipments that he or she gets can be bought by low Level Players, but it's also hard or expensive to get usable and good Equipments for self-Use. And if he or she wants to play efficiently, he or she should reach 310, but the usable and good Equipments that he or she can use are still expensive, because the Players who play more and get the most Equipments for us are high level. If he or she reachs 400, he or she can get not only usable and good but also cheap Equipments, but the usable and good Equipments that he or she gets are also cheap. And the Top Equipments schould gotten by 500, so that the Top Players can use them with full Effect without soulbound. So I still think that Players should reach 310 as quickly as possible and then leveling up slowly, if they've gotten their final Set. If Players only make daily Run in Arena like me, they should reach 200 as quickly as possible, so that they can unlock The Trio and the Tree and blow.
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Oct 29 2017, 03:46
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BlueWaterSplash

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I agree with a fair bit of what you said. But keep in mind that you cannot unlearn Adept Learner. So even going by your rules, if someone trained too much Adept Learner to reach level 200 or 310, later they can't slow down as per your desire.
The issue of whether to level up faster or slower is difficult to answer, and the wiki only hints that players may want to level up faster at times, and slower at times, depending on their current situation and future plans.
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Oct 29 2017, 03:56
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chjj30

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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Oct 29 2017, 03:46)  I agree with a fair bit of what you said. But keep in mind that you cannot unlearn Adept Learner. So even going by your rules, if someone trained too much Adept Learner to reach level 200 or 310, later they can't slow down as per your desire.
The issue of whether to level up faster or slower is difficult to answer, and the wiki only hints that players may want to level up faster at times, and slower at times, depending on their current situation and future plans.
If I must make a Choice myself, I choose to get lv 300 Adept Learner and reach 310 quickly to play efficient, and then reach 400 quickly so that I can use all the Equipments.
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Oct 29 2017, 15:34
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clarkiest

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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Oct 28 2017, 21:46)  I agree with a fair bit of what you said. But keep in mind that you cannot unlearn Adept Learner. So even going by your rules, if someone trained too much Adept Learner to reach level 200 or 310, later they can't slow down as per your desire.
The issue of whether to level up faster or slower is difficult to answer, and the wiki only hints that players may want to level up faster at times, and slower at times, depending on their current situation and future plans.
It's a trade off. It your mind, get a really good drop and sell it at highest price possible is a great benefit. In others' mind, which include mine as well, the possibility to soul bind that sweet rolled gear is far greater enticement than getting equally good stuff from people around my level.
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Oct 29 2017, 15:55
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Noni

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QUOTE(clarkiest @ Oct 29 2017, 08:34)  It's a trade off. It your mind, get a really good drop and sell it at highest price possible is a great benefit. In others' mind, which include mine as well, the possibility to soul bind that sweet rolled gear is far greater enticement than getting equally good stuff from people around my level.
Game has changed a bit lately: high level top gear has become cheaper (except for those few extreme cases), while low level gear has become almost unfindable. That makes leveling up interesting. There is a constant supply of level 500 good gear available at very reasonable prices.
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Nov 16 2017, 11:43
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UnknowDestroyer

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Can i post one of the biggest fucked up thing i did in HV here? Not reading the Advice page on Wiki and checking the forum.
That said, still carried myself on Fire/Frost Mage at Nintendo difficulty up to ~ round 115 in Grindfest @900 MDB. That's something i guess.
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