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Jul 15 2021, 13:21
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Nanashi123
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QUOTE(Super Shanko @ Jul 15 2021, 06:07) Oh yea, I see the dilemma. Definitely r/l u/d.
If I would suggest a semi-guide…. I assume you’re using Photoshop or gimp, but maybe make a layer with faux text blocks/bubbles for the sake of text reference. Just to get a sense of placement and layout, then of course freely remove the layer before completion.
Side bit of advice, always save as Tiff in the event of needed editing.
Thanks for the advice, it's hard to look at it objectively after hours editing and translating, sometimes I feel like I can't tell what looks good anymore haha. I keep around the gimp files in case of editing, is that what you mean about saving as Tiff?
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Jul 15 2021, 18:47
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Super Shanko
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QUOTE(Nanashi123 @ Jul 15 2021, 04:21) Thanks for the advice, it's hard to look at it objectively after hours editing and translating, sometimes I feel like I can't tell what looks good anymore haha. I keep around the gimp files in case of editing, is that what you mean about saving as Tiff?
It’s a file format that will allow you to retain all the unflattened layers before finalizing it.
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Jan 20 2022, 03:14
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rusa
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Working .. edit..
This post has been edited by rusa: Jan 20 2022, 07:00
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Feb 9 2022, 03:11
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Ass Spanker
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Quick question to cleaners: do you usually lasso tool or brush to remove text from simple bubbles (entirely white background, trivial removal, no redrawing)?
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Feb 9 2022, 06:10
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Super Shanko
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QUOTE(Ass Spanker @ Feb 8 2022, 19:11) Quick question to cleaners: do you usually lasso tool or brush to remove text from simple bubbles (entirely white background, trivial removal, no redrawing)?
Either/Or. It doesn't really matter how you do it so long as it's done well.
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Feb 9 2022, 08:27
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altereggo
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QUOTE(Ass Spanker @ Feb 8 2022, 20:11) Quick question to cleaners: do you usually lasso tool or brush to remove text from simple bubbles (entirely white background, trivial removal, no redrawing)?
I think most people use an action for that these days. wand-select the bubbles, hit the hotkey, done. It speeds up very simple projects full of nice clean bubbles.
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Feb 10 2022, 03:43
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Super Shanko
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QUOTE(altereggo @ Feb 9 2022, 00:27) I think most people use an action for that these days. wand-select the bubbles, hit the hotkey, done. It speeds up very simple projects full of nice clean bubbles.
I'd like to see the action that can pinpoint the bubbles for each page.
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Feb 10 2022, 05:44
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Eustacheus
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I think he meant he uses the magic wand to select the balloons and then uses the action. I work the same way.
EDIT: Better way would be using the quick selection tool, as it also selects the letters.
This post has been edited by Eustacheus: Feb 10 2022, 08:24
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Apr 6 2022, 23:52
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GoldenVampireFlandre
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Quick question, how do people on here redraw/clean text bubbles in colored hentai, especially those bubbles that have a slight transparency layer so you can kinda see the underneath art? Any threads or guides for it? It's a lot harder than b/w manga since there's colors involved, at least that's how I see it.
This post has been edited by GoldenVampireFlandre: Apr 6 2022, 23:52
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Apr 7 2022, 00:01
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Super Shanko
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QUOTE(GoldenVampireFlandre @ Apr 6 2022, 14:52) Quick question, how do people on here redraw/clean text bubbles in colored hentai, especially those bubbles that have a slight transparency layer so you can kinda see the underneath art? Any threads or guides for it? It's a lot harder than b/w manga since there's colors involved, at least that's how I see it.
Super lazy advice here, but lay your text down however you wish and it’s just a lot of clone stamping and/or redrawing with a brush. There’s no real technique, just sort of clean around it until it’s pretty.
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Apr 8 2022, 05:26
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anon7631
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QUOTE(GoldenVampireFlandre @ Apr 6 2022, 23:52) Quick question, how do people on here redraw/clean text bubbles in colored hentai, especially those bubbles that have a slight transparency layer so you can kinda see the underneath art? Any threads or guides for it? It's a lot harder than b/w manga since there's colors involved, at least that's how I see it.
Since coloured pages are more likely than B&W to be variant sets, or otherwise have another image where the same part of the image is identical but isn't covered, checking for that should be the first step. It's a bit obvious, but it's always worth checking, since it can save a lot of effort to copy hidden parts instead of re-drawing, and it sucks to realize you wasted time and effort when a much easier option would have given better results. Even try the artist's Pixiv gallery for some cases; I've found key panels uploaded that way, as a full-sized image already cleaned of SFX and dialogue. An important thing is to not do more than you need to. It doesn't need to look good without text. It only needs to look good at the parts the translated text doesn't cover. What's more, in some places if the text covers enough, then even in the gaps you won't miss detail. Also remember that nobody is viewing the page at 300% zoom like you might be when editing, so if you can't get it looking right, zoom out a bit and see if it's still visible at normal levels. That's not to say you should do a shoddy job and hope nobody notices, but doing a good job also doesn't mean doing things that don't make any difference. One option I always feel bad about and hesitate to recommend is simply to fill the bubbles. If the transparency is slight enough, and you can barely see what's behind the bubbles in the first place, and it doesn't cover much, it's sometimes worth using a solid fill. But that's not something to do often, since erasing parts of the image is never ideal, and should only be considered where it actually doesn't matter.
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Apr 8 2022, 07:20
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pankun225
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Can anyone please tell me how I extract images from komiflo?
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Apr 9 2022, 23:09
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anon7631
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Is it considered "fair game" to grab translations off Danbooru or similar places to typeset and upload them? I did that for the Non-H doujin I uploaded and I have a few more idling half-finished. Personally I figure anything that gets posted like that can be used freely, but is there a possibility of someone kicking up a stink over it?
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Apr 10 2022, 14:12
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knightmarepilot
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QUOTE(GoldenVampireFlandre @ Apr 6 2022, 17:52) Quick question, how do people on here redraw/clean text bubbles in colored hentai, especially those bubbles that have a slight transparency layer so you can kinda see the underneath art? Any threads or guides for it? It's a lot harder than b/w manga since there's colors involved, at least that's how I see it.
CAF works wonders a lot of the time, the text should cover up any ugliness from it too. If all else fails then clone stamp/healing brush etc like any other redraw. I also copy paste from other parts of the raw more often than B/W manga because it's harder to get the right colors/gradients down for pen tool and stuff. QUOTE(anon7631 @ Apr 9 2022, 17:09) Is it considered "fair game" to grab translations off Danbooru or similar places to typeset and upload them? I did that for the Non-H doujin I uploaded and I have a few more idling half-finished. Personally I figure anything that gets posted like that can be used freely, but is there a possibility of someone kicking up a stink over it?
No one will care
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Apr 19 2022, 03:03
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GoldenVampireFlandre
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QUOTE(anon7631 @ Apr 9 2022, 14:09) Is it considered "fair game" to grab translations off Danbooru or similar places to typeset and upload them? I did that for the Non-H doujin I uploaded and I have a few more idling half-finished. Personally I figure anything that gets posted like that can be used freely, but is there a possibility of someone kicking up a stink over it?
I would assume since they did it on danbooru they won’t mind if a decent editor edited it into actual translated pages. I’ve seen some bounties on here asking for danbooru translations to be edited into e-hentai galleries. Just remember to credit the translator if applicable, and link where the danbooru gallery is from. Also, thank you everyone for the replies to my question above! This post has been edited by GoldenVampireFlandre: Apr 19 2022, 03:06
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Apr 29 2022, 10:51
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Tmt_
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Hello everyone, I'm preatty new about editing so I wanted to ask about this thing that has been bugging me for a while: when I tried typesetting my first title I was having some fun with the various transformation tools in GIMP for moaning and other sfx (granted that not everyone of them is needed for a translation but still) by stretching and rotating the text, but the end result is always super blurry and I can't figure out why or how to solve it. So if anyone has an answer or a link to some in-depth guide for this type of "unconventional" typesetting I would be very grateful.
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Apr 30 2022, 21:16
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crimsonraes
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QUOTE(Tmt_ @ Apr 29 2022, 04:51) I was having some fun with the various transformation tools in GIMP for moaning and other sfx by stretching and rotating the text, but the end result is always super blurry and I can't figure out why or how to solve it.
This sounds like an interpolation of rasterized text issue. From cursory Google searches, it seems that GIMP uses vector-based layers for text, but converts them to raster the moment you apply any advanced transformations like rotation, scaling, and skewing. Here's a good answer on Stackexchange concerning the matter, along with a potential workaround: [ graphicdesign.stackexchange.com] https://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/que...ed-text-in-gimpI use PS so I don't have much else to add, aside from try using that or CSP instead of GIMP.
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May 1 2022, 00:30
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anon7631
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QUOTE(Tmt_ @ Apr 29 2022, 04:51) Hello everyone, I'm preatty new about editing so I wanted to ask about this thing that has been bugging me for a while: when I tried typesetting my first title I was having some fun with the various transformation tools in GIMP for moaning and other sfx (granted that not everyone of them is needed for a translation but still) by stretching and rotating the text, but the end result is always super blurry and I can't figure out why or how to solve it. So if anyone has an answer or a link to some in-depth guide for this type of "unconventional" typesetting I would be very grateful.
As stated above, that's inherent to how Gimp handles text transformations. But there are options that can significantly reduce the blur. I'm pretty sure the default interpolation setting for Gimp's rotate tool is Cubic. If you go into the dropdown and choose NoHalo instead, you will get MUCH better results for text. Not quite as good as I think vector-based handling would be, but still night-and-day versus the default: (IMG:[ i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/ycrD3NQ.png)
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May 31 2022, 20:23
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Ancient-Alien
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QUOTE(anon7631 @ May 1 2022, 00:30) As stated above, that's inherent to how Gimp handles text transformations. But there are options that can significantly reduce the blur. I'm pretty sure the default interpolation setting for Gimp's rotate tool is Cubic. If you go into the dropdown and choose NoHalo instead, you will get MUCH better results for text. Not quite as good as I think vector-based handling would be, but still night-and-day versus the default: (IMG:[ i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/ycrD3NQ.png) Until now GIMP turns a textlayer into an imagelayer when you're manipulating it with the transformation tools If you want to transform text in GIMP using the transformation tools without blurring, convert the text into a path first. - Right click on the text or easier on the text layer in the the layers dialod and click on text from path. - Make your text layer now invisibel or delete it. - Create a new layer for your transformed text. - Set the transformation tools mode to paths. - manipulate the path until your satisfied - fill the path. This post has been edited by Ancient-Alien: May 31 2022, 20:28
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Jun 16 2022, 02:47
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vaitomarnocu
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Hey guys, sometimes I like to clean doujinshi as a hobby and was wondering what's the best way to edit text/sfx over censored colored parts?
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