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While getting involved in more and more discussions regarding the Netorare tag in galleries I think its time to explain and decide upon the usage of the Netorare tag.

Originally 寝取られ (NETORARE) = your wife/lover being stolen by someone else.

This is the reason why some users do not consider it to be netorare when the girl is NOT stolen away, as in - she cheats but remains loyal to her bf/husband after that.

However, that is wrong assumption, because during the last decade the term netorare went through transformation which broadened its meaning and is the main thing responsible to this terms popularity of late.

I will use fhc description of Netorare he made in 2006. Fhc is an experienced gamer and really follower of the genre long time ago and is stil bloging the Netorare games so I think he is competent enough.

What is NETORARE ( 寝取られ ) ?

NETORARE (寝取られ) also named just like "NTR" ( Abbreviation ) is a genre of EROGE. "eroge" means "Japanese erotic game", called generality like "Hentai Games" in Westerner World.

The unique objective of NTR is to play with the "jealous feelings" of the player.

In NTR games you play like a MALE PROTAGONIST that love a girl in the game. However, for some reason, this girl BETRAY the protagonist and make sex with other guy.

Exist 3 kinds of Netorare :

NTR Type A (consensual sex)

The girl that the protagonist love agree to make sex with other guy instead of the protagonist in the game, she is not forced, she want it, is NOT a rape. Thats the category where willing cheating or one-night stands fall in.

NTR Type B (semi-consensual sex)

The girl in the beginning of the game is really forced (raped by force, drugged, blackmailed), but, during the gameplay this rape begin to change gradually to consensual sex, because the girl begin to like it a lot

In this kind of game (Type "B" ) , are listed games that are used some kind of "trick" to make the girl to make sex with others guys instead of the protagonist, like hypnotism, aphrodisiac, blackmail or sometimes even brainwash . All games with NTR related with this kind of "feature" are considered "Type B".

NTR Type C (violent rape without pleasure)

the girl is raped - she resist until to the last minute, she never agree with this and she never feel pleasure during this sexual act , she feel only pain and suffer, this is just a violent RAPE really .

What makes it different from the usual rape is that she has the guy she likes or that the guy whoo likes her is forced to watch her being raped.

Since NTR is jealousy/rage and jealousy/rage is a feelings the definitions of what one can hold netorare is also pretty wide.

Some people have jealousy of seeing their mother or sister having sex, other people feel jealousy of a unrequited love, like a childhood friend that you love very much, but, she end up in love with other guy. Or maybe a friend that work in the same job.

If the view showed from the cheating girls perspective then the feelings netorare play is the feeling of guilt, because we do not see the husband or boyfriend in person.

So yes, I would suggest to use this contemporary meaning of the Netorare which despite of the original meaning of the word now do not require the girl to be stolen away now as nowadays Netorare also includes the cheating without leaving the boyfriend/husband.

This post has been edited by Darknemo2000: Dec 14 2010, 20:25

Wow, DarkNemo - I heard about you. I'm a big fan.

EDIT: Also, good treatise.

This post has been edited by noahbody: Dec 14 2010, 18:53

You couldn't have done this months ago? You know when we were arguing over using it as a tag and all I asked for was a fucking definition. You can put this now but then all you did then was whine to Tenboro.

Because back then the only one who used to be incorrect was you, Shadow Weaver. Besides I had an impression a lot of poeple knew about fhc and the netorare term but in the last two weeks I had plenty of cases where i had to explain the term over and over again which made it clear that not many know about fhc definition of NTR and many do not know what netorare is supposed to mean in contemporary sense of the word.

Back then it seemed like it was mostly a problem connected with you thus I saw no need to create such definition again because if you were to use Netorare on google Fhc thread regarding definition would be one of the first results you would get, so I really thought there was no need for it.

But as I said, recently I stumbled upon plenty of the incorrect usages of the term, which made me create this thread.

The main three misunderstandings of netorare I saw include

1) The girl is not involved with the hero (not his wife/girlfriend) thats why it is not Netorare.

But if it showed from the guys perspective and he feels jealous/raging or heartbroken then it is still netorare even if it is just one-sded affection and the girl has no relationship towards the main guy and is just his far away crush or dream girl.

2) Son getting jealous of seeing sister/mother having sex with other man is not netorare because hidden incest is wrong to begin with.

If we see the son or brother being heratbroken/jealous as its shown from his pov then it is still a netorare even though the relationship is just brother/sister or mother/son. Many users considered it to be netorare because such hidden incest is not right to begin with, yet it still can be NTR as long as the feelings played well by the author.

3) The heroine is not stolen away thus not netorare.

Those who make this mistake, use the old, word to word meaning of the netorare term which tells about heroine being stolen. But the contemporary meaning of the term also includes the one-night stands or the cheating when the girl after it still returns to the main guy (or never leaves to begin with).

This post has been edited by Darknemo2000: Dec 14 2010, 20:14

The thing was I asked you for a definition and you couldn't be bothered to give me one. A polite person would have given one. A smart person would have given one to not only support what they they wanted but to get the person with the highest tagging power on their side.

A definition was too much to ask so I went into the tagging thread to ask that someone else give me a definition and still nobody would give me a fucking definition. If so many people like this then it's fandom is a sad bunch when they were either completely unwilling or unable to explain it.

Shadow Weaver, I thought that you never wanted the definition of the word.

I feel really ugly right now because it seems I have misunderstood you from the begining. I thought that you knew the definition of netorare and still used your own understanding of it ignoring the more or less official (at least used by most western eroge gamers) definition made by fhc four years ago.

the word itself has many meanings .
imho.

( sorry for my bad english )

How to make good NTR :
1. Make original story than based on anime series or something. (anime series have their own main story, so NTR haters -like me- still can tolerate. Or if you want to make one, don't use new male chara. Just use some a male chara that fans know him -like main male chara's best friend)
2. Have the protagonist on screen with his NTRed girlfriend doing something romantic together.
3. Keep NTRed girlfriend innocent behavior till the end of the story -acting good girl in front of her real boyfriend-. Don't turn her into a bitch.
4. Or, let the real boyfriend knew what his girlfriend doing, but still keep quiet because he loves her so much...

For NTR lovers, you gonna cum in a minute. but for NTR haters, they gonna burn their PC...
have a good day XDD

If you can't summarize what something is in a maximum of 3 sentences taggers will continue to do their own thing. That's why the first definition you mentioned is preferred, since people can actually remember it as well as identify materials that possess it with ease.

Imagine if every fetish tag had 4 paragraphs of explanation for proper usage...