[X] My Assistant

Use your example:
You bid 20M, which means that you are willing to use this bid to beat my previous bid, such as 19M.
Why do you think you should win gear at 15M?
No, you shouldn't. I've already bid up to 19M, and if you want to get the gear, you'll have to increase the price to 20M, which is what you should pay.
If you don't want to bear the price, you should abandon or withdraw the final bid – and that's what I did.
After you bid 20M, I shouldn't have any more objections to my previous bid, either to modify it or to withdraw it – and that's what you should do.

Now the only question is: the final bid can be abandoned or withdrawn before the auction ends, and when exactly will this "auction end"?

I have already stated that your psychological price limit is 15M, and you may only have 15M. The only reason you dared to bid 19M is that you can freely cancel your bid—after all, as long as you cancel it, there is no risk of debt.

Simply put, in an auction where bids cannot be canceled, the final price of the item should be close to the second-highest bidder’s psychological price limit, unless the winner bids exactly their own psychological price. However, if bid cancellation is allowed, the final price will always be the highest psychological price, which, of course, benefits the seller.

In my opinion, bid cancellations should only be allowed early in the process and should only be used to correct mistakes.

okay I now kinda understand what happened. I don't believe that rules are the answer to everything. I try to host this DIY auction with as little rules as possible. The auction is based on trust. But mind you, trust comes on foot and leaves on a horse, as they say where I live. That means: be careful not to harm the trust others have in you.


7510sina cancelling bids so late in auction is really not gentleman behavior. Editing should be done with moderation and restraint. It's really bad to edit so late in auction.

I have a question:
Can I cancel my offer before the end of the sale?
I've actually done it, but I find that I don't know if it's allowed.

My understanding of canceling a bid is to help someone who made MISTAKEs.
This should be kindness and an agreement between players based on trust.

Cancelling a bid before auction without any cost is a disaster.
You can do it, but the other people can also do it. Then, it will be a battle between scripts.
awszdwy2 can cancel their bid but wait until the last second to re-bid 19m if you don't cancel your bid.
And if you do, awszdwy2 can redo this to the previous bid. And so on.
In the end, it's the same as nobody doing it but everyone gets screwed.

Btw, I personally think canceling a bid during extension minutes is okay but it must be a bid made by mistake.
But I'll follow Noni's rule, as long as there is a clear rule about it.

This post has been edited by l13763824039: Mar 30 2025, 14:19

7510sina you can consider yourself warned. Please don't do this again.

I trust we won't see this behavior from you again. Please note that we can prevent you from using the DIY auction if necessary. But I trust this is not necessary.

On the topic of rules: Don't look for rules to guide you, but look for what's the decent thing to do.

7510sina you can consider yourself warned. Please don't do this again.

I trust we won't see this behavior from you again. Please note that we can prevent you from using the DIY auction if necessary. But I trust this is not necessary.

On the topic of rules: Don't look for rules to guide you, but look for what's the decent thing to do.

ok，If so, I take the warning.
But I still need to ask for some details. Because I still haven't figured it out.

This post has been edited by 7510sina: Mar 31 2025, 00:34

7510sina you can consider yourself warned. Please don't do this again.

I trust we won't see this behavior from you again. Please note that we can prevent you from using the DIY auction if necessary. But I trust this is not necessary.

On the topic of rules: Don't look for rules to guide you, but look for what's the decent thing to do.

First of all, I should retell the whole process truthfully:
For the record,
At 22:05, AWSZDWY2 bid 1.7M
At 22:06, I bid to 1.79m
At 22:13, awszdwy2 bid 1.9M

I made my first bid of 2m at 22:14 and withdrew it at 22:16

From then until 22:28, I made three bids of 2m and then withdrew them all

Because I didn't actually continue bidding, the auction for this piece of equipment ended at 22:28, 15 minutes after the last bid on AWSZDWY2.

At 22:33, awszdwy2 edited his post, withdrew the bid, and edited it again at 22:52, filling the bid. This is after the end of the auction extension period.

Then, awszdwy2 sent an email claiming that it was unfair that he was going to pay a higher price for the piece because I withdrew my last bid.
(I didn't actually understand what he was saying, which I think is incredible, because even if I withdraw my latest bid, it won't have any effect on the price he has already proposed.) Unless I withdraw the bid that preceded him. But in fact I didn't. ）

Well, now I'm being warned. But what is this warning for?
Is it me who bids three times and then withdraws? If that's the case, I should think carefully before bidding, rather than doing it rashly.
Or should I not withdraw my bid during the auction extension period?
Or is it something else I didn't notice?

Please give me a definite answer so that I can correct my behavior.


This post has been edited by 7510sina: Mar 31 2025, 00:55

First of all, I should retell the whole process truthfully:
For the record,
At 22:05, AWSZDWY2 bid 1.7M
At 22:06, I bid to 1.79m
At 22:13, awszdwy2 bid 1.9M

I made my first bid of 2m at 22:14 and withdrew it at 22:16

From then until 22:28, I made three bids of 2m and then withdrew them all

Because I didn't actually continue bidding, the auction for this piece of equipment ended at 22:28, 15 minutes after the last bid on AWSZDWY2.

At 22:33, awszdwy2 edited his post, withdrew the bid, and edited it again at 22:52, filling the bid. This is after the end of the auction extension period.

Then, awszdwy2 sent an email claiming that it was unfair that he was going to pay a higher price for the piece because I withdrew my last bid.
(I didn't actually understand what he was saying, which I think is incredible, because even if I withdraw my latest bid, it won't have any effect on the price he has already proposed.) Unless I withdraw the bid that preceded him. But in fact I didn't. ）

Well, now I'm being warned. But what is this warning for?
Is it me who bids three times and then withdraws? If that's the case, I should think carefully before bidding, rather than doing it rashly.
Or should I not withdraw my bid during the auction extension period?
Or is it something else I didn't notice?

Please give me a definite answer so that I can correct my behavior.

Okay, I now believe that you only canceled your bid because you were hesitant, and I misunderstood you. However, your actions at the end of the auction really made me feel like you were engaging in malicious bidding, which is why I explained the situation to you.

The abuse of bid cancellation has also happened in previous auctions. When the highest bidder cancels their bid, the second-highest bidder also cancels, and so on. This can cause an item that was originally worth tens of millions to drop to just a few million.

Bidding against you is based on my trust that your bids are genuine, valid, and responsible. Once a bid is canceled, that trust is lost, and all your previous bids will make me feel deceived.

Okay, I now believe that you only canceled your bid because you were hesitant, and I misunderstood you. However, your actions at the end of the auction really made me feel like you were engaging in malicious bidding, which is why I explained the situation to you.

The abuse of bid cancellation has also happened in previous auctions. When the highest bidder cancels their bid, the second-highest bidder also cancels, and so on. This can cause an item that was originally worth tens of millions to drop to just a few million.

Bidding against you is based on my trust that your bids are genuine, valid, and responsible. Once a bid is canceled, that trust is lost, and all your previous bids will make me feel deceived.

In my opinion, the only thing that needs to be prohibited is to modify the bid after the auction is over.
As for the auction, since it's not banned, that's part of the game.
For me personally, if someone bids after me and then cancels, it will only allow me to get the gear at a lower price. I don't understand why this is a bad thing?

This post has been edited by 7510sina: Mar 31 2025, 13:48