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That's weird. Searching works now, but it didn't work at the time of my post here.

Probably has something to do with the caching.

So there was no intention to delist galleries. Then why a uploader:［Disown］ search only shows the recent week plus 30 empty pages? Technical issue or intended limitation?

Umm... well, that's actually a user who renamed themselves to ［Disown］. The 30 empty pages are just the disowned galleries from the user "［Disown］", which are "delisted" from this uploader-specific search for obvious reasons.

In other words, you just performed an uploader-specific search (i.e. show all galleries from the user "［Disown］") rather than a "show all disowned galleries" search. Though bear in mind that the latter shouldn't be possible to perform.

A legit disowned gallery should be "owned" by (Disowned), like this one.

That's weird. Searching works now, but it didn't work at the time of my post here.

So there was no intention to delist galleries. Then why a uploader:［Disown］ search only shows the recent week plus 30 empty pages? Technical issue or intended limitation?

Actually, as kaguya has said, "［Disown］"is a username, it's not "(Disowned)". You can click on that word to search for the uploader, which means it's not "disowned".

It might be better to add something to "No unfiltered results in this page range. You either requested an invalid page or used too aggressive filters." to tell the user that disowned galleries are not included in the search result?

This post has been edited by mewsf: Aug 20 2022, 17:35

The 30 empty pages are just the disowned galleries from the user "［Disown］", which are "delisted" from this uploader-specific search for obvious reasons.

I think it all comes down to this. What reasons?

I know the strings "［Disown］" and "(Disowned)" are not the same, but that doesn't explain why there was the need to delist anything, or to make it not visible through the uploader: tag. Maybe it's a good idea to have a disowned tag?

This post has been edited by genl: Aug 20 2022, 19:01

Disowned galleries are only delisted from uploader searches, they can still be found through normal methods like tag/title searches. They need to be delisted from an uploader search, because not doing so would allow a method to discover the uploader of a gallery, which goes against the reason for disowning galleries to remove association with them. Pages of 0 results is a little awkward, but that happens with tag filtering etc too.

I think it all comes down to this. What reasons?

I know the strings "［Disown］" and "(Disowned)" are not the same, but that doesn't explain why there was the need to delist anything, or to make it not visible through the uploader: tag. Maybe it's a good idea to have a disowned tag?

Yeah, what Shank just explained for me. It wouldn't make much sense if you can still perform a uploader-specific search on disowned galleries. That would just leak the identity of the original owner.

Not sure what's the point of performing a "show all disowned galleries" search, but I personally don't see a problem of permitting such action. Maybe just through uploader:(Disowned) instead of a community managed tag.

because not doing so would allow a method to discover the uploader of a gallery

I didn't think about it that way. Is this due to the uploader comment containing their id?

Also if they are still searchable then it would still be possible to discover the original uploader, no? So if the uploader decided to disown the gallery because it was leaked somewhere, that link, once saved/indexed, will get you to the page where you'll be able to discover who was the uploader.

This post has been edited by genl: Aug 20 2022, 23:00

I didn't think about it that way. Is this due to the uploader comment containing their id?

Not entirely sure how you come to this conclusion, but if I disowned a gallery yet people can still search it with "uploader:PrincessKaguya", it's a clear indication of me being the original owner, despite the system replaces PrincessKaguya with (Disowned).

Also if they are still searchable then it would still be possible to discover the original uploader, no? So if the uploader decided to disown the gallery because it was leaked somewhere, that link, once saved/indexed, will get you to the page where you'll be able to discover who was the uploader.

What link? Unless you are a veto holder or tag checker, the gallary system won't display who was the original owner.

Not entirely sure how you come to this conclusion, but if I disowned a gallery yet people can still search it with "uploader:PrincessKaguya", it's a clear indication of me being the original owner, despite the system replaces PrincessKaguya with (Disowned).

I thought if it's under uploader:［Disown］ then it can't be under any other uploader.
Guess it is a side effect of how the process was implemented.

What link? Unless you are a veto holder or tag checker, the gallary system won't display who was the original owner.

I mean the gallery link itself. Assuming that the link doesn't change after disowning.

I thought if it's under uploader:［Disown］ then it can't be under any other uploader.

It is, for the same reason why a gallery can't be owned by two PrincessKaguyas, or why two different users can't have the same username.

"［Disown］" is just a regular user who renamed themselves to that:
- /index.php?s=&am...&id=1613322

I mean the gallery link itself. Assuming that the link doesn't change after disowning.

Having the disowned gallery link won't reveal any extra info regarding the uploader's identity. Unless someone jotted it down in their personal notes/database, which is outside of our control.

It is, for the same reason why a gallery can't be owned by two PrincessKaguyas, or why two different users can't have the same username.

Then it means it would not display under "uploader:PrincessKaguya" search and people would not be able to know you are the original uploader, right? Looking at your previous message, it says the opposite.

"［Disown］" is just a regular user who renamed themselves to that:

I remember that uploader and it feels wrong to sacrifice all his previous uploads for this feature. On the other hand, if it was his own decision then I can't complain.

The old name is back now by the way, so I assume someone is working on something.

Then it means it would not display under "uploader:PrincessKaguya" search and people would not be able to know you are the original uploader, right?

Yeah. Disowning is basically just that.

When I checked because my display name was changed to the one I used before,
There seems to have been a discussion on this part.
I understand that I did not violate the rules of use, but I have no particular objection or complaint about the voluntary action.
But at least I want to give you a chance to change the display name again.

When I checked because my display name was changed to the one I used before,
There seems to have been a discussion on this part.
I understand that I did not violate the rules of use, but I have no particular objection or complaint about the voluntary action.
But at least I want to give you a chance to change the display name again.

I presume you want to change your current username to something else.

If that's the case, you will need to contact the administration directly, only him can change usernames on the fly.